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Peter’s Blog, Wolfgang Puck Pizza Bar

Written By Peter Reinhart
Saturday, 02 March 2013 Peter's Blog

Last week I took a local reporter, Michael Solender, on a local mini-Pizza Quest for a story he is writing for a local magazine. We were accompanied by photographer Tonya Russ Price. We picked four local places to visit, all of which I consider among Charlotte’s best: Wolfgang Puck Pizza Bar; Luisa’s Brick Oven Pizza; Mellow Mushroom; and Pure Pizza (where I serve as “consulting partner”). Michael’s article, which I’m sure will be great and very different from my account, won’t come out till late April and I’ll post the link when it does, but I wanted to post a few comments of my own here, since I found the adventure very rewarding for a number of reasons that I’ll explain below.

Chef Scott Wallen shows me how he handles their 9-day pizza dough.

Why Wolfgang Puck chose Charlotte as the launching pad for his new WP Pizza Bar concept, which will roll out nationwide over the next few years, I’ll never know, but I’m thrilled. For some reason he likes Charlotte. His Executive Chef over all the locations, Scott Wallen, was the chef for a number of years just around the corner at Upstream, one of our best seafood restaurants, so maybe that had something to do with it.  I’ve always loved Wolfgang’s food — he truly is one of the great flavorists of our time, as well as a shrewd and driven businessman. When I lived in San Francisco my favorite restaurant  was Postrio, which was the SF version of Spago, and I think it’s safe to say that Puck’s flavor palate has influenced nearly every American chef of the past thirty-five years. He has also presided over a line of disappointing frozen pizzas and has branded himself on the shopping networks across a lot of so-so products, which I think has contributed to a diluting of his eponymous brand value, but that’s irrelevant at the moment because his restaurant food still sizzles. I’m thrilled that his first WP Pizza Bar exists only one mile from my house.  I know that it has nothing to do with me; Wolfgang and I have met only a few times and I doubt he even knows who I am. However, since I don’t believe in coincidences (but I do believe in irony), I would say that it is apt and appropriate that he chose my ‘hood to be the flagship location for this venture. I like this restaurant very much and I really enjoy the whole menu, from apps to entrees, as well as the pizzas. Chef Wallen (Scott) took me through his process for the pizzas, including a well thought out dough that uses an aged preferment (about one week old before it gets used), plus an overnight biga, plus an overnight cold fermentation for the dough balls, resulting in a surprisingly soft dough, especially considering that the flour is high gluten of about 14% protein. The first time I had their pizza I thought they were using Italian tipo -00- flour because the texture was so soft. Scott told me it took many months of trial and error in their California test kitchen to achieve this dough. It also contains a little olive oil which, I’m sure, contributes to the softness but, regardless, they pulled it off; an original one-of-a-kind dough topped, naturally, with top of the line ingredients including oven slow roasted tomatoes, organic tomato sauce (the same Bianco DiNapoli tomatoes we use at Pure Pizza — dang, I thought we were the only ones around here who knew about those!), various imported and domestic cheeses, and the full array of Wolfgang’s signature bold flavors, including his famous smoked salmon pizza, the one that was first made famous at Spago, as well as braised short rib, roasted wild mushroom, and barbecue chicken concepts, among the 18 pizzas on the menu. As the pizzas emerge from the dual-heat WoodStone oven, the cornicione is brushed with a tasty garlic oil and then the pies are garnished with various fresh herbs or greens.

Being a crust guy, I spent most of my time talking with Scott about their fermentation method; the idea of holding onto a pate fermentee’ (aka pre-fermented dough) for a whole week or more is a very unique technique. I hadn’t heard of anyone else doing this. And then, combining it with another preferment, a biga, continues to add layers of flavor as they build toward the final dough.
So here’s the thing: the pizzas at WP Pizza Bar are beautiful and look amazingly similar to the ones we make at Pure Pizza. The main difference is the texture of the crust.

Whose is better? It depends on whether you like it soft (Pizza Bar) or al dente (Pure). The good news is that for a city that, ten months ago, had no artisan pizzerias at all, we suddenly have two, both of which are very very good. The business models are also very different; WP Pizza Bar is a beautiful, upscale bistro with a full menu that includes great steaks, fish, various pastas, a full bar, inventive sides and specials (I’m a fan of sauteed spinach with roasted garlic and those oven dry-roasted tomatoes), whereas Pure Pizza exists in the Seventh Street Public Market, a kiosk restaurant in an alt-style food court.

An example of the Pizza Bar Margherita, with oven roasted tomatoes.

I’ll write more about Pure in my next post (after we host our first private beer dinner, which happens tonight), as well as tell you about my stops at Luisa’s (my favorite local New York-style Neapolitan pizzeria), and Mellow Mushroom, a brilliant and hugely successful concept pizzeria chain that makes what I consider to be some of the best “Americana” pizza around (and having 36-48 draft beer taps at every location doesn’t hurt either).

Bottom-line on WP Pizza Bar: it may take a few years to cover the country and work out all the remaining first year tweaks but I think this is going to eventually be Wolfgang Puck’s most financially successful multi-unit concept, mainly because both the food and the pizzas are excellent, and the restaurant design, as always with Wolfgang, is beautiful. He is the Godfather of the gourmet, “California” pizza, and he is now building a series of shrines to celebrate his contribution to the pizza lexicon. Thanks to Wolf and Scott Wallen for kicking it all off right around the corner from my house. The irony is on me!

I’d  love to hear from any of you who may have also been to the WP Pizza Bar. There is now one in Greensboro, NC and I believe another will soon open, perhaps in Raleigh, and also out west. By this time next year there should be three more and then, watch out, they will probably hit the popcorn stage soon after. But the key to why it works, the star attraction, are the pizzas. Who knows, maybe Charlotte will become a pizza town after all….

Comments

Michael Solender

What a pleasure to be escorted by the master! Really learned a lot and had a great time being a on the quest with PR> Thanks for letting me tag a long!!

peter

Thanks Michael — yes I had a ball and we ate some pretty great ‘za all day! By the way, all the photos in my posting were taken by Tonya Russ Price. Can’t wait to see Michael’s article next month in South Park Magazine with more of Tonya’s photos.

Kenny Kingswell

I recently read an article regarding the launch & possible franchising of another hot pizza place in Califronia (Blaze). Evidently Maria Shriver & the owner of the Red Sox are infusing cash. Here is the article for those interested:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-28/assembly-line-pizza-draws-hungry-fast-casual-investors.html

peter

Thanks Kenny — very interesting. We’ll be seeing more and more of these. Has anyone been to Blaze or the other new fast casual pizzerias like it? Are the pizzas any good?

Alex

Hi Peter, can you share a little more detail about how they make their dough at WP? I ate at a WP restaurant not long ago and was amazed about their crust so I’d like to replicate it at home. It seems that the WP dough recipe shared online isn’t anything like what they use here. It seems to contain a lot of yeast (1 packet) and no mention of preferments or multi day aging. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I understand you may not be able to share the actual recipe, but maybe you can provide a simplified version that would be somewhat close?

Thanks so much!

Alex

    Peter Reinhart

    Hi Alex, When I visited the local WP Pizza Bar what they told me is that they use a preferment as well as a starter to make their dough. I doubt they’d share the actual recipe online, as they spent a long time developing it and were quite proud of it. It’s been so long ago that I can’t even recall what type of flour they used, whether American or Italian, but I’m guessing it was American, either bread flour or high gluten. My suggestion is to use your favorite bread flour, make a small batch following the Neo Neapolitan recipe in “American Pie.” Let it sit overnight in the fridge. The next day, make another batch and add the old batch to it, along with a small amount of sourdough starter (about 5% of the total flour weight of the first two batches of dough). Form this dough into dough balls or, optionally, refrigerate the whole batch overnight and form the dough balls 2 hours before you plan to make the pizzas. Let them rise at room temp and then make your pizzas. You may need to tweak this to your taste, adding more or less water, changing the flour type, but it will get you close to the goal and the rest is up to your experiments and tweaks. Let us know if this helps. Write to me directly at peter@pizzaquest.com to follow-up.

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