{"id":3773,"date":"2017-01-31T01:12:30","date_gmt":"2017-01-31T06:12:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/?p=3773"},"modified":"2017-02-27T10:27:15","modified_gmt":"2017-02-27T15:27:15","slug":"interview-phil-korshak-home-slice-pizza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/interview-phil-korshak-home-slice-pizza\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Phil Korshak of Home Slice Pizza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Hi Everyone,<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0 \u00a0 As noted in my post of January 19th, I got to spend some time with Phillip Korshak in Austin, Texas at his pizzeria <em>Home Slice<\/em>, where they make about three thousand pizzas and slices a day to an unending line of both sit-down and take-out customers. The place was hopping and I imagine it always is. \u00a0It was our first time meeting face to face and I had no idea what to expect other than that I had heard from our mutual friend, John Arena, that Phil is a great guy. No kidding! \u00a0I felt from the first minute that it was if we had known each other forever, kindred spirits, brothers from different mothers. As he described to me the choices he made in his recipes, the philosophy behind his approach to food and cooking, the thoughtfulness behind every aspect of his menu, his relationships with his business partners and <em>Home\u00a0Slice<\/em> founders, with the staff, and the\u00a0waterfall of free association ideas and images as articulated his inner fire&#8211; I felt like I was in a jazz ensemble, trading licks and riffs, almost like we were in each other&#8217;s head anticipating where we were coming from and where we were going. I loved it and felt totally energized! So, when I got home I sent him a few questions and just let him riff. Here&#8217;s our exchange &#8212; I hope you enjoy it, and think you will&#8230;.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3701\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3701\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3701\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0226-e1484830161236-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Phil Korshack, surrounded by dozens of dough boxes holding his 72 hour fermentation doughs.\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0226-e1484830161236-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0226-e1484830161236-300x400.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0226-e1484830161236.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3701\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Phil Korshack, surrounded by dozens of dough boxes holding his 72 hour fermentation doughs.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>PQ (Peter): What you\u2019re doing here in Austin is nothing short of amazing \u2013 the volume and quality of pizzas you produce, the amount of people you\u2019re serving, and the creativity and thoughtfulness in your menu items \u2013 it\u2019s very impressive. Tell us how this all happened; what well of creative energy are you drawing from? \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Phil:<\/strong> Thank you, Peter! I am, and always have been, a lucky man. I am lucky enough to have studied for the sake of study. I am lucky enough to have lived the life of a barman in New York City at the end of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century and into this millennium. I am lucky enough to have learned to cook around the same time that I learned to read. I am lucky to have become a pizza maker before I knew what that really meant. I am lucky to have been loved by my wife for a score of years, to have grown with her and changed with her in that time. I am lucky to have met pilgrim after pilgrim on this road and to have seen that my burden is theirs and their burden mine.<\/p>\n<p>When my wife and I moved to Austin, TX in 2003, we left Brooklyn looking for a kind of balance (and a balance that is kind) that we simply were unable to find in New York City. We wanted some tranquility and space, some sky and, most importantly, time to ourselves, for ourselves. This was two years before <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em> opened its doors. This may be the exact time, however, that <strong>co-owners Jen, Joseph, and Terri<\/strong> had their serious conversation about opening a scrappy Mom &amp; Pop pizza shop. I was hired as one of the original line cooks. I fell in love the moment I heard Jen talk about how food can make you feel better. I fell in love the moment Terri tasted something delicious and, delighted, was driven to insist that I be delighted too. I fell in love when Joseph said, <em>\u201cWe want to be awesome. Not great. Awesome!\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I had zero knowledge of pizza at that point. Jen Strickland, our &#8220;Queen of Pies,&#8221; was working the line in the beginning. She and I found that we moved well together in the tight kitchen that shared space with the bartender. Jen and I worked night after night and developed a kind of short hand, mixed with a kind of telepathy, that is the sort of magic that occurs when two people work next to each other for any amount of time and are truly open to the other. In this way I found that my decade and a half of bartending informed my way of moving in a kitchen.<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cEverything is relative, Philip,\u201d<\/em> I could hear my father\u2019s voice in my ears. And, of course, he\u2019s right. Each thing relates to every other thing. There is nothing that is solitary. There is nothing that is not informed by the other. As Carl Jung has said, <em>\u201cThe meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.\u201d<\/em> Over the last 11 years of working with dough, of working with makers of dough, I have found this to be inarguably true. Of this lifetime of working with musicians, working it out live in front of an audience, I have found this to be inarguably true. In this blessed and very fortunate score of years and more with my beloved wife, Kendra Korshak, I have found this to be inarguably true. The key is respect for each ingredient as being holy and whole. I am reminded of a quote from J.D. Salinger\u2019s <em>Franny &amp; Zooey:<\/em>\u00a0<em>&#8220;This is God\u2019s universe, buddy, not yours, and he has the final say about what\u2019s ego and what isn\u2019t.\u201d<\/em> It is not a coincidence, it is not chance, that my beloved Kendra\u2019s pet name for me is \u201cBuddy\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>All of this is to say that each human being I encounter is a necessary and welcome ingredient in my life. This is to say each experience changes and alters and irrevocably moves me forward when the human drive is antithetical to change. This is to say that who I am is a pastiche of a 1,000 or more people, each marking me sublimely and eternally. And I am better for it. I am always, and I mean <strong>always, <\/strong>better for it. In the end I come back to the thing my father explained to me when I was very young, maybe five, while standing in front of Van Gogh\u2019s \u201cStill Life w\/ Irises.\u201d My father was a painter who became an advertising executive. He was a tremendous role model for me in this way, as he never really stopped being a painter. He never stopped looking at the world that way. As we stood in front of the painting, he told me this:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cThere\u2019s maybe another 15 painting beneath that one, Philip. 15 at least. That doesn\u2019t count the 100 or more that are sketched and held bound in his journals and sketchbooks. That doesn\u2019t count the 1,000 or more that he threw away, destroyed, because they weren\u2019t what he meant. But all we see, all we see my sweet son, is this one painting. And, yes, it is beautiful. It is maybe even perfect. But each part that got him there is equally important. And we forget that, looking at this one beautiful painting. Sure, only Van Gogh can be Van Gogh. But each of us is a painting with 15 paintings at least below, with 100 or more sketches, with a 1,000 or more discarded pieces. And, my sweet son, without any one of those parts, without any one of those pieces, there can be no still life equal to this. Isn\u2019t that beautiful?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Yes. Yes, Dad. Always yes. It is beautiful. We are beautiful. Always yes.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3697\" style=\"width: 304px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3697\" class=\" wp-image-3697\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0216-e1484830070614-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Still life with Tiramisou (sort of)\" width=\"294\" height=\"392\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0216-e1484830070614-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0216-e1484830070614-300x400.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0216-e1484830070614.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 294px) 100vw, 294px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3697\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Still life with Tiramisou (sort of)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>PQ: You seem to think and create in much the same way as a musician \u2013 lots of associations, analogies, linkages. Can you tell me more about your personal creative process?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I love music. It is language much like food. It says so much and says it so beautifully.<\/p>\n<p>There is nothing like a live band. There is nothing like what happens when people actually listen to each other. There is that thing that the old jazz cats talk about when they talk about the space between the notes being music. There is the thing my father taught me about negative space when looking at anything. All of this comes together when I think about cooking and when I think about cooking with a team. And, to be clear, these two things couldn\u2019t be more different.<\/p>\n<p>Cooking alone, playing solo, each requires me to be present in a different way than cooking in a team, or playing with a band. These days I spend more time being a conductor than a player, more time being a manager than a cook. Don\u2019t get me wrong: I still cook every day. I still practice every day. At the pizza shop (good old <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em>), I will still walk the line each day and get good and dirty when I can; but my job is really to get out of their way. These cats, these cooks, they\u2019re battle tested and salty. They are far from green and their chops are practiced and earned. Each cook has a different relationship with the dough, or with the ovens. It would be arrogant and egotistical of me to think that <em>my way<\/em> is <em><strong>the<\/strong> way<\/em><strong>. <\/strong>As a matter of fact, unless I am open to seeing and experiencing something new, something different, I am dooming the kitchen to stagnation and failure. Failure? What does failure mean? Failure means that work is only work, that food is only product, that people are only customers, and that what has been is only what can be. Poppycock. The future is limitless. Possibility is open. And the opportunity to learn is always, and I mean <strong>always, <\/strong>present as long as I am present.<\/p>\n<p>This is true when I am working on a dough recipe.<\/p>\n<p>This is true when I am working on staffing.<\/p>\n<p>This is true when I am working an oven.<\/p>\n<p>This is true when I am thinking about how each ingredient comes into the restaurant, and thinking about where it came from, and how it got here.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3704\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0213-e1485756971127-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"img_0213\" width=\"323\" height=\"323\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0213-e1485756971127-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0213-e1485756971127-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0213-e1485756971127.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 323px) 100vw, 323px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While this might seem off subject, bear with me: Ella Fitzgerald toured with a young Dizzy Gillespie when big band was a thing. Ella was young (and, down deep, she really wanted to be a dancer and not a singer) as was Dizzy. Dizzy was laying down the foundation of BeBop in the clearing opened for him by Coltrane, by Ellington. And there\u2019s Ella. Surrounded by all these cats who knew the rules well enough to break them. And so she starts working her voice to meet with Gillespie\u2019s horn. She starts working her scat so that her phrasing glides in and out of that horn, turning a conversation into a chorus.<\/p>\n<p>And, really, isn\u2019t that what it\u2019s all about?<\/p>\n<p><strong>PQ: So many of your menu items are drawn from childhood memories. Why do you think it is important to connect to these, both for yourself and for your customers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Someone very smart once said something along the lines of, <em>\u201cThe human brain thinks in the form of the narrative.&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>This is to say we are all storytellers. We tell stories to each other. We tell stories to ourselves. My beloved wife and I used to sit at each anniversary dinner and peel back each year, each memory, and tell ourselves the story of us. The funny thing about memory, about story telling, is that it really tells you more about <em><strong>now<\/strong><\/em> than about <strong><em>then.<\/em><\/strong> When Kendra and I would come back to the story about the trattoria on the other side of the Arno we would tell it differently each time. Each time we would remember things that were specific to how each of us felt right then, right there. It is hard, I think, being present. I think it\u2019s harder than anyone gives it any kind of credit. It\u2019s hard to think about, and hard to talk about. I think human beings engage in a kind of pantomime to talk about now by talking about the past. It\u2019s easier, maybe. More safe, possibly. Good old T.S.Eliot opened up <em>Four Quartets <\/em>with:<\/p>\n<p><em>Time present and time past<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Are both perhaps present in time future<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Tell me, go ahead and tell me, that Eliot isn\u2019t talking about being a baker.<\/p>\n<p>Tell me this isn\u2019t about how vanilla can be the catalyst for time travel.<\/p>\n<p>Tell me this isn\u2019t about how the bubbling sourdough starter carries eternal yeast.<\/p>\n<p>Tell me this isn\u2019t about how it is never, and I mean <strong>never<\/strong>, too late to have a happy childhood.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3698\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3698\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3698\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0215-e1484830112763-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Remember to dip your chocolate chip cookie in the glass of milk cold, the way Phil's mom taught him to do it!\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0215-e1484830112763-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0215-e1484830112763-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0215-e1484830112763.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3698\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Remember to dip your chocolate chip cookie in the glass of milk cold, the way Phil&#8217;s mom taught him to do it!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PQ: Looking back at your life and how it unfolded, where do you think the fire in your belly comes from; what drives you to work so hard to do what you do? And who are some of your heroes and inspirations, whether in the pizza world or in life?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>This is a strange question because I wouldn\u2019t know how else to be. It is like the thing I would tell Kendra, \u201cI love you. It is not a decision. It is not a choice. It is. And it is everything.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I owe a great deal to my parents who stressed individuality and responsibility and self-reliance. I owe a great deal to each teacher who was generous with knowledge and more generous with the burden of self-governance. I owe a great deal to the great <strong>Tony Gemignani<\/strong> who knows more about dough and ovens than anyone I\u2019ve ever met. I owe a great deal to <strong>John Arena<\/strong> who exemplifies the <strong>fact <\/strong>that integrity is ACTION. I owe a great deal to <strong>Scott Wiener,<\/strong> who leads with his heart, and his heart is huge. I owe a huge amount to the folks here at <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em> who make the world a better place \u2013 one pizza at a time. I owe a huge amount to each cook with whom I have walked the floor.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s this great line from the old song <em>\u201cPaper Moon\u201d:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>And it wouldn\u2019t be make believe, if you believed in me<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Jen, Joseph, and Terri,<\/strong> the co-owners of <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em>, are amazing when it comes to dreaming out loud, which is to say believing full force and in real time. They have inspired me to believe more than I can know. I have been honored and remarkably fortunate to have worked with <strong>Nano Whitman<\/strong>, Director of Operations of <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em>, for the last eleven years. Eleven years ago we were in the parking lot of the not-yet-open-pizza-shop putting wood stain on to what would be hung above the bar that was not quite yet installed. I know few cooks in this world who get the distinct pleasure and education of working so closely, so honestly, for such a long period of time.<\/p>\n<p>And I owe everything to Kendra, my wife. I owe everything to her because it was she, after all, who loved me for me, even though I did not know what that meant or who I was. Kendra reminds me, every day, that compassion is the rudder, the keel, and the sails. It is love that keeps us afloat.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3699\" style=\"width: 274px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3699\" class=\" wp-image-3699\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0234-e1485756929524-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"It's all about the choices\" width=\"264\" height=\"352\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0234-e1485756929524-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0234-e1485756929524-300x400.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0234-e1485756929524.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 264px) 100vw, 264px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3699\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">It&#8217;s all about the choices<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>PQ: Getting back to pizza, can you talk about your views regarding ingredients and, also, about fermentation and how you choose what products to use and then how to evoke the most flavor from them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is a big world. There\u2019s lots and lots and lots of different types of pizza out there. And that\u2019s great! The style we do here at <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em> is <strong>New York Style<\/strong>. To me that means a very specific thing: quality ingredients balanced sparingly and made with the love of an Italian grandmother on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. A distinctly American food with its root being the immigrant experience, and the immigrant dream of hope, hope for the future. And hope, it turns out, isn\u2019t complicated.<\/p>\n<p>The most perfect slice, for me, is a cheese slice. This is because it most perfectly exemplifies the delicate balance between three points that, when done properly, form an amazingly subtle and perfectly supportive equilateral triangle. <em>Cheese\/Sauce\/Dough.<\/em> Three points. If any one point is weighted more than the other the triangle quickly becomes Pythagorean and weighted with a right angle. The equilateral triangle balances perfectly, each 60 degree angle feeding into the next. Three part harmony. Beautiful.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3693\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3693\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3693\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0210-e1485756989193-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"What will they experience?\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0210-e1485756989193-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0210-e1485756989193-300x400.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0210-e1485756989193.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3693\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">What will they experience? Joy!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Once I start thinking about ingredients I always keep thinking about what I want each person to experience while eating: joy. Joy! The food should facilitate joy: joy of life; joy of living; joy of experience. If the ingredient in question gets in the way of that, if I am interrupted from enjoying the pizza or the dessert because I am consumed by the ingredient itself, then I have done something wrong. I mean, I love truffles. They\u2019re amazing. But EVERYTIME I\u2019ve EVER eaten a pizza with truffles on it I\u2019ve thought to myself first, \u201cHey! Truffles!\u201d and, yes, I\u2019m pretty excited. But what I\u2019m not is lost in the overall pie. Me, I want to get lost in the pie.<\/p>\n<p>When considering <em>New York Style Pizza<\/em> I often quip that it comes down to what I want out of Punk Rock Music: Play Loud. Play from the Heart. Play on the same level as the crowd. And if you want to take a solo, get off the stage. That\u2019s prog rock. And prog rock can be cool; it\u2019s just not what I\u2019m interested in.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to fermentation I maintain that underdeveloped gluten is a bawling child throwing a tantrum in the middle of a supermarket check out line. When it comes to fermentation all I\u2019m talking about is being kind to the dough in the way you might even be kind to yourself, on a good day. Get rest. Allow your muscles to develop. Allow time to be time and know that all things are in a state of becoming. All of this sounds very fancy, but really it comes down to this: an underdeveloped gluten <strong>will<\/strong> get developed. And it will take energy to get there. It can either develop in time through fermentation <strong>or<\/strong> it can get deconstructed inside of the belly of someone you love (which is to say everyone) with no inconsequential expense of energy.<\/p>\n<p>A Norwegian Baker in Brooklyn once put it to me like this:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cImagine you eat an egg. Like a hard boiled egg. Like a whole egg. Imagine you eat this whole egg. Then imagine that about an hour later a chicken hatches in your belly. That\u2019s a rotten thing to do to someone, isn\u2019t it?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Of course she\u2019s right. And that\u2019s the great thing about being a cook. Every day you make the decision to be kind. To be healing. To be comfort. To care.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3724\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3724\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3724\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/MG_8066-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"It will develop!\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/MG_8066-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/MG_8066.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3724\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The dough? It will develop!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Dough is really a great kind of small lesson in care.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>PQ: In light of all the things we\u2019ve discussed, what would you like your legacy to be when all is said and done?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It isn\u2019t really a legacy that I\u2019m after. I would much rather people talk about a thing they\u2019ve learned than talk about the weird guy who taught them the thing. I\u2019d rather someone remember fondly the moment in their life when they were in the pizza shop, and the light was just right, and that one slice of pizza made the difference for them on that day. I know it can happen. It happened to me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PQ: Phil, thanks so much for sharing so much of yourself and for all you\u2019re doing for Austin and the larger pizza world. Before we leave, would you mind telling our readers how to find you and <em>Home Slice<\/em> in Austin, and any other parting words?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am so fortunate to stand on the shoulders of giants. I am so fortunate to have the brilliance and grace and skill and camaraderie of the pizza community. I have been fortunate to see people fall in love, right in front of my eyes, both at the tables and on the line. In the end it always comes back to that: Love. And falling in love.<\/p>\n<p>Every pizza shop is a love story.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3694\" style=\"width: 372px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3694\" class=\" wp-image-3694\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0219-e1485757006426-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Peter and Phil -- a pizza bromance!\" width=\"362\" height=\"483\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0219-e1485757006426-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0219-e1485757006426-300x400.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2017\/01\/IMG_0219-e1485757006426.jpg 480w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 362px) 100vw, 362px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-3694\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Peter and Phil &#8212; a pizza bromance? \u00a0<strong>(Note from Peter: <em>Home Slice Pizza<\/em> is located at 1415 S. 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