{"id":2798,"date":"2016-04-12T01:00:16","date_gmt":"2016-04-12T05:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/?p=2798"},"modified":"2016-04-12T15:59:09","modified_gmt":"2016-04-12T19:59:09","slug":"mirror-mirror-on-the-wall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall\/","title":{"rendered":"Mirror Mirror on the Wall"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the greatest of them all\u2026<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2802\" style=\"width: 285px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Pepe_sign.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2802\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2802\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Pepe_sign-275x300.jpg\" alt=\"The great Frank Pepe's in New Haven, creator of the classic White Clam Pizza\" width=\"275\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Pepe_sign-275x300.jpg 275w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Pepe_sign.jpg 323w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2802\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The great Frank Pepe&#8217;s in New Haven, creator of the classic White Clam Pizza<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2804\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/800px-Lombardi-pizza.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2804\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2804\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/800px-Lombardi-pizza-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Lombardi's, on Spring St. in NYC -- America's oldest pizzeria\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/800px-Lombardi-pizza-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/800px-Lombardi-pizza.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2804\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lombardi&#8217;s, on Spring St. in NYC &#8212; America&#8217;s oldest pizzeria<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Gennaro Lombardi, Frank Pepe, John Sasso (Johns Pizza in NYC), Totonno Pero\u2026legendary pizza makers who have created a lasting impact on the craft.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2803\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Johnspizzeria.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2803\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2803\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Johnspizzeria-300x192.png\" alt=\"John's on Bleecker St. in Greenwich Village\" width=\"300\" height=\"192\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Johnspizzeria-300x192.png 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Johnspizzeria.png 471w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2803\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">John&#8217;s on Bleecker St. in Greenwich Village<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Wouldn\u2019t you love to be able to travel back in time and experience pizza from the hands of the true masters? Surely they were the greatest pizza makers in history right? Nah, nope, no way, not even close. Wait, before you start writing that poison pen letter, let me start by saying that indeed each of these men has had an incredible impact on our sub culture. In truth the coal fired pizza at Totonno\u2019s would probably be my death bed meal of choice. But let\u2019s be honest, casting aside the myths, today, right now, giants walk amongst us.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2801\" style=\"width: 254px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Totonno.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2801\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2801\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Totonno-244x300.jpg\" alt=\"Totonno's -- Coney Island's finest!\" width=\"244\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Totonno-244x300.jpg 244w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Totonno.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 244px) 100vw, 244px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2801\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Totonno&#8217;s &#8212; Coney Island&#8217;s finest!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The depth of knowledge, talent, commitment, skill and generosity of today\u2019s pizza makers is unprecedented. In fact today&#8217;s dedicated amateurs often have more knowledge than the accomplished pros of just a few decades ago. Folk\u2019s we are living in the<em> Golden Age of Pizza.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s just look at dough for example. In the old days most pizza dough was made using any flour that was cheap and available. Ingredients were portioned by volume or by eye. Mix time? Hah! You turned on the mixer and turned it off when you got back to it. Temperature? It\u2019s hot today let\u2019s add some ice. Extended fermentation, pre-ferment, autolyse in fact all of the many techniques that have crossed over from the artisan bread baking world were simply not part of the pizza maker\u2019s repertoire. Pizza dough was primarily direct method, quick ferment and then use as needed, ready or not.<\/p>\n<p>Training was pretty much &#8220;do what I do,\u201d reinforced with an occasional knock on the head from a pizza peel. We learned by rote, it was all about <u>how<\/u> with little or no explanation of<u> why<\/u>.<\/p>\n<p>In spite of the lack of depth the small amount of knowledge that was available was veiled in secrecy. Every pizza maker had a closely guarded secret even though they were all doing essentially the same thing. The idea of exchanging information or actually helping another pizza maker, including co-workers was unheard of. Trade shows such as <em>The International Pizza Expo<\/em> would have been scorned.<\/p>\n<p>On top of all this, the truth is that most of the great pizza makers of the old days were one-trick ponies. They were very good at making the one type of pizza that they knew how to make but versatility was not their strong suit.<\/p>\n<p>Compare this with today\u2019s &#8220;rock star&#8221; pizza makers which, in the US has to start with Tony Gemignani.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2808\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-Genignanin-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2808\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2808\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-Genignanin-photo-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Tony Gemignani, on fire with pizza artistry\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-Genignanin-photo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-Genignanin-photo-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2808\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tony Gemignani, on fire with pizza artistry<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Tony excels in virtually every style, oversees a business empire, runs one of the best pizza schools in the world and has written the definitive how-to book about pizza \u2018The Pizza Bible.\u201d\u00a0 On top of that he has created a legacy of amazing pizza makers, including Laura Meyer, who are leading the next generation of pizza artisans in America.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2810\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-G.-2-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2810\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-G.-2-photo-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Tony Gemignani serving one of his Sicilian pizza masterpieces\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-G.-2-photo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-G.-2-photo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Tony-G.-2-photo.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2810\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tony Gemignani serving one of his Sicilian pizza masterpieces<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Roberto Caporuscio,<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2813\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Roberto-Caporuscio-and-John-Arena-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2813\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2813\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Roberto-Caporuscio-and-John-Arena-photo-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Roberto Caporuscio (with John -- he knows everybody!), who brought the essence of Naples pizza to NYC\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Roberto-Caporuscio-and-John-Arena-photo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Roberto-Caporuscio-and-John-Arena-photo-1024x768.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2813\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Roberto Caporuscio (with John &#8212; he knows everybody!), who brought the essence of Naples pizza to NYC<\/p><\/div>\n<p>and Giulio Adriani,<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2814\" style=\"width: 251px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Giulio-Adriani-Tony-G.-and-John-Arena-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2814\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2814\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Giulio-Adriani-Tony-G.-and-John-Arena-photo-241x300.jpg\" alt=\"Giulio Adriani, right, working with Tony G. and John A. to develop a new blend of pizza flour\" width=\"241\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Giulio-Adriani-Tony-G.-and-John-Arena-photo-241x300.jpg 241w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Giulio-Adriani-Tony-G.-and-John-Arena-photo.jpg 579w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 241px) 100vw, 241px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2814\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Giulio Adriani, right, working with Tony G. and John A. to develop a new blend of pizza flour<\/p><\/div>\n<p>are pizza maestro\u2019s who travel the world sharing their knowledge and continue to learn and grow. With decades of experience they are still innovating and elevating our craft. Paulie Gee has given hope to dreamers everywhere when he reinvented himself and parlayed his backyard pizza passion into a nationally recognized destination pizzeria in the Greenpoint section of Brooklyn.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2811\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Paulie-Gee-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2811\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2811\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Paulie-Gee-2-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Paulie Gee, who has reinvigorated pizza passion in Brooklyn and beyond\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Paulie-Gee-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Paulie-Gee-2-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Paulie-Gee-2.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2811\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Paulie Gee, who has reinvigorated pizza passion in Brooklyn and beyond<\/p><\/div>\n<p>And then there is Chris Bianco, the humble philosopher of pizza.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2809\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Chris-Bianco-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2809\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2809\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Chris-Bianco-photo-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Chris Bianco, the reigning poster child for the artisan pizza movement (and there's our John Arena right next to him!)\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Chris-Bianco-photo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Chris-Bianco-photo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.fornobravo.com\/pizzaquest\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2016\/04\/Chris-Bianco-photo.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2809\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chris Bianco, the reigning poster child for the artisan pizza movement (and there&#8217;s our John Arena right next to him!)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Chris has quietly set the bar and inspired pizza makers everywhere. Chris was farm to table before farm to table was cool. He established relationships with like-minded farmers and food suppliers to create pizzas that clearly demonstrate his artistry. His pizzas draw inspiration from his surroundings and are a true expression of his world view and life experiences. If you want to know, Chris eat his pizza. The whole story is right there on the plate. This is pizza making on a completely different level.<\/p>\n<p>So, \u201cMirror, mirror on the wall, who is the greatest of them all?\u201d Perhaps the quest itself is more important than any subjective answer could ever be. Each of us owes it those who came before and those who will come after to continue learning and contributing. I firmly believe that the very best pizzas being made today are unsurpassed in quality, flavor and craftsmanship. Wisdom comes from old knowledge, but improvement comes from new knowledge.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the greatest of them all\u2026 Gennaro Lombardi, Frank Pepe, John Sasso (Johns Pizza in NYC), Totonno Pero\u2026legendary pizza makers who have created a lasting impact on the craft. Wouldn\u2019t you love to be able to travel back in time and experience pizza from the hands of the true masters? Surely they were the greatest pizza makers in history right? 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