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Old 06-15-2014, 01:12 PM
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Made great progress today. Been at it since 5 am.
Gotta stop here work on my hair brained crazy tool.
Could on of you guys post a link to the calculator? I
need to figure courses and angles of cuts. This is a
42" inside dome.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:20 PM
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Here is the link to deejayoh's calculator (Dome spreadsheet calculator).
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Old 06-15-2014, 02:20 PM
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My crazy tool. If anybody can help with those angles.
The arm of my tool is 3 1/2" off cooking floor, and it's
42" inside dome. Thanks
Oh when you cut all your bricks the paste in
The tray of the tile saw. Use that on the cooking
Floor to lock the tiles? It's tight but ya get
1/8" gap here or there... Looking at going vertical.

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Old 06-15-2014, 02:48 PM
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Bubb,
you might want to varnish or paint that block real good before you start. The way the grain is oriented, it will curl and break when it gets repeatedly wet and dry .
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Old 06-15-2014, 03:16 PM
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Gulf good tip! I'll hit it with spray paint.
I'm mulling over just using the crazy tool,
And shims. I think I'd make better time.
In the end your not going to see all those
Cuts? Any pros or Cons I'm over looking?
If I just use halfs I can get quit a few course
Done tomorow.
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:18 PM
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Bubb,
Does that triangular brick on the top of your arch former represent how you intend to marry the arch and dome together?
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Old 06-15-2014, 04:54 PM
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I'm mulling over just using the crazy tool,
And shims. I think I'd make better time.
In the end your not going to see all those
Cuts? Any pros or Cons I'm over looking?
If I just use halfs I can get quit a few course
Done tomorow.
There are plenty of great builds out there in both camps. I don't recall one on either side that have fell in . I did a half ased attempt at making my joints on the inside of the dome fit close. The outside joints were filled in with copious amounts of mortar .

EDIT: Wotavidone, is bringing out a critical point. Please, don't let my post cover that up!
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:41 PM
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No that triangle piece was just a piece I
Sat there. I'll make a proper arch. Really looking forward
to tomorrow. I'll get quit a few courses up! Gotta get another 50
Fire brick in the morning.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:36 PM
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Hey Im having trouble with that calculation file? Its I office and I don't have that? I cant open it?? Can anybody help me with that? I know in upper courses I need to cut the bricks smaller but im going to need something to go by. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:36 PM
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Hey Im having trouble with that calculation file? Its I office and I don't have that? I cant open it?? Can anybody help me with that? I know in upper courses I need to cut the bricks smaller but im going to need something to go by. Any help would be much appreciated.
Don't have a windows based PC? Even the office 2010 starter demo that came with my PC opens this file. Otherwise you might have to find one of the freebies on the net that will work with Excel files.
On the otherhand, don't despair. I'm pretty sure the guys at Pompeii had never heard of spreadsheets and calculators.

The reason I asked about your arch is because you have the dome bricks pushing against the back surface of the arch side bricks in your mock-up.
I am not an expert, by any means, but that doesn't quite look right. It looks like you will end up with the arch in front of the dome, instead of in the dome holding up the bricks above the opening.

Have you read this thread? I sure wish I did before I started.

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/n...res-15133.html (A newbies survey of the Forno Bravo treasures hiding in the archives)

I've been wading through a few threads looking for a picture that illustrates my concern, but naturally when you want one......
I settled for a pic of what we did on my friend's oven. It is a semicircular arch, but it does illustrate my point. The arch needs to back in under the dome if you get my drift. It's so much easier to do than it is to describe

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/8/ne...tml#post167578 (New Build in South Oz)
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