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Old 06-26-2012, 08:35 AM
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Default 36"w/ Steel Stand, 2-3 Week Build

After I promised a friend that I'd cater his wedding at my place with a WBO I need to build it in only a couple weeks! Drawings attached, feedback please!! (Google Doc) Frame and Hearth PIC
Technical Drawing and Cut List
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The Plan:
-36" Forno Bravo Pompeii Kit
-1.5"x 0.125wall Steel frame (Attached Solid Works Drawing of geometry)
-59" x 64" x5.5" hearth poured at the same time as the pad
-build oven on steel frame in garage
-Low vault Tuscan igloo (Modified IT with lazy susan)
-Slow dry the oven in the garage with woodstove lit, yes during the summer.
-use backhoe to move hearth & oven into place once pad and oven are completely dry
-Series of drying fires

I have some masonry experience,

Out of my mind to try this in 3 weeks? is likely that I'll be able to move the hearth/stand/oven without cracking everything?
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:24 AM
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It will take two weeks just to cure that thing. One week to let the mortar dry after the dome is finished, and one week for doing the curing fires. I'm afraid you'd better come up with a plan B.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 36"w/ Steel Stand, 2-3 Week Build

The big day is Aug 11 so technically I've got about 6 weeks to be firing at full temp. Sounds like that might be doable??
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:00 AM
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I would have to say yes if you can dedicate full time days to it. If not, I would use plan B as Laku says.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:11 AM
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Working for ones self and from home does have its benefits . But I digress , anyone have experience building on a metal stand and moving dryed oven? Tips suggestions? I haven't applied the weight to the stand in SW but based on some stands I've seen this one should be over built. Feedback? Plus adding 0.188 wire loops welded to the top of the stand to hold the concrete on the stand in transit and for eternity
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:39 AM
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I guess technically doable. But for a first build, that's going to be a gamble.

Maybe use sand to get the dome shape easy and fast? And don't use vermicrete, that will never dry properly in that time I think.

Oh and get some kind of tent or you won't be able to build during rainy days.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:49 AM
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Six weeks is definitely enough time if you can get the oven built in the next 3 weeks. It will take you most of that time to do it.

But if you are on a tight timeline, why the added complexity of building the oven in one place and then moving? Why not just build it where it is going to sit? I built an oven outside in just about the rainiest Seattle spring that I can recall. It can be done. I don't see any benefit to the plan to build inside and then move. Plenty of potential for disaster with no real benefit = bad plan, but that is just my $0.02.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:45 PM
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Thinking that pouring Hearth at the same time as the pad will save 1 drying time, not to mention mixing time, since the cement truck is delivering for the pad/hearth.

Building in the garage = temp controll and no worries about weather. The backhoe can easily lift stand, hearth and oven into place and I can weld a fixture for moving it safely no problem.... But I suppose this does add an unnecessary element of risk.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:23 PM
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After I promised a friend that I'd cater his wedding at my place with a WBO I need to build it in only a couple weeks! Drawings attached, feedback please!! (Google Doc) Frame and Hearth PIC
Technical Drawing and Cut List
Solid Works Ass.

The Plan:
-36" Forno Bravo Pompeii Kit
-1.5"x 0.125wall Steel frame (Attached Solid Works Drawing of geometry)
-59" x 64" x5.5" hearth poured at the same time as the pad
-build oven on steel frame in garage
-Low vault Tuscan igloo (Modified IT with lazy susan)
-Slow dry the oven in the garage with woodstove lit, yes during the summer.
-use backhoe to move hearth & oven into place once pad and oven are completely dry
-Series of drying fires

I have some masonry experience,

Out of my mind to try this in 3 weeks? is likely that I'll be able to move the hearth/stand/oven without cracking everything?
You are VERY aggressive. You promised a friend that you would CATER HIS WEDDING, six weeks away, in a WFO that only exists only in your mind. If you fail his wife will NEVER forgive you. If you succeed you will become a LEGEND.

I like your style.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:47 AM
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It''ll be a legend either way. A legendary failure or the better kind!
Finished building stand at 6:30am, concrete truck showed up at 8:30. Pad 16x20' looks perfect!

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B26...zJZVlZULWROY0k

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B26...i1xS1RwTW1CNzQ
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