#1  
Old 04-25-2011, 01:49 AM
Serf
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 1
Default Need help with the mortar mix

Hi all - Ive just started building the dome on my oven and I need help with the mortar mix.
I have purchased A600 Chinese Cement from Field Furnace Refractories (wetherall park sydney).
Is this a premix or do need to add sand etc.?
What are the ratios?
I have also read alot about adding fire clay, is this necessary in this cement?
Thanks
Heath
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-28-2011, 11:30 PM
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 399
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

FFR should be able to help you, call Andrew or Alan.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-29-2011, 06:15 AM
nissanneill's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posts: 1,877
Thumbs up Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Hi Heath and welcome aboard.
I personally wouldn't use any of these products and stick with the poor man's mortar for several reasons. It is easy to make, cheap and seems to out perform all these other refractory products.

Cheers,

Neill
__________________
Prevention is better than cure, - do it right the first time!

The more I learn, the more I realise how little I know


Neillís Pompeiii #1

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Neillís kitchen underway

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-12-2011, 04:57 AM
OzOvenBuilder's Avatar
Laborer
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Western District, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 79
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Quote:
Originally Posted by nissanneill View Post
Hi Heath and welcome aboard.
I personally wouldn't use any of these products and stick with the poor man's mortar for several reasons. It is easy to make, cheap and seems to out perform all these other refractory products.

Cheers,

Neill
I agree! I've built a few and especially those ovens with a lot of reinforced thermal mass on top, things are not going to move too far, only as far as a quality fire brick will allow! I know with the method I use, very little of the mortar actually sees flame and has no way of getting into the oven.
__________________
Boom Shanker! (Neil - The Young Ones)


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-12-2011, 10:00 PM
cobblerdave's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: brisbane australia
Posts: 2,480
Question Re: Need help with the mortar mix

montiesridge
How did you go?....What was the answer from Allan/Andrew I would like to know myself

Regards Dave
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-23-2011, 12:46 AM
Rae Rae is offline
Serf
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 1
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

I would also like to knwo what to mix the A600 with...?
Anyone find out the answer? IS it just water is sand required?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-01-2011, 08:28 PM
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 399
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Quote:
Originally Posted by cobblerdave View Post
montiesridge
How did you go?....What was the answer from Allan/Andrew I would like to know myself

Regards Dave
Actually Dave, Andrew has left FFR sometime ago.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-04-2011, 02:06 PM
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 399
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rae View Post
I would also like to knwo what to mix the A600 with...?
Anyone find out the answer? IS it just water is sand required?
Vermiculite. Various ratios, for different strengths.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-04-2011, 03:48 PM
david s's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Townsville, Nth Queensland,Australia
Posts: 4,855
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny the oven man View Post
Vermiculite. Various ratios, for different strengths.
Vermiculite in the mortar??
Won't this make it way too coarse?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-05-2011, 09:25 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: California
Posts: 105
Default Re: Need help with the mortar mix

Hi All,

1 part Portland cement
3 parts sand
1 part lime
1 part fireclay

Thanks,
Heidi FB
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
High Heat Mortar Primer james Getting Started 81 11-08-2014 04:07 PM
Who has used the calcium aluminate option for mortar? Lburou Pompeii Oven Construction 23 08-20-2011 09:00 PM
Flue mortar - solution for too wide mortar joints? thamnophis Tools, Tips and Techniques 2 10-14-2010 06:14 AM
How thick a mortar gap with "horizontal" soldiers? kebwi Tools, Tips and Techniques 6 11-05-2009 09:02 AM
Fire Mortar vs. Refax Refractory Mortar southpaw Pompeii Oven Construction 4 04-07-2007 06:02 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2006/10 Forno Bravo, LLC