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Old 11-30-2010, 03:53 PM
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Default Foundation as a useable space?

Has any ever used the space inside if the foundation as storage space? if so how do you support all of the weight from the floor, cooking surface and dome?
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Old 11-30-2010, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Foundation as a useable space?

When I was at your stage, I went through the same thoughts. Trap door in the slab at grade would make for a great place to hide the family treasures. In the end, I decided it would be too much work. I filled the foundation in with sand and poured the slab. Here is a link to the photos that I took of the build:

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Old 11-30-2010, 04:39 PM
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Wood storage area is common, the slab, if built to FB spec is strong enough to bridge it. I put a partition wall in and built a smaller free standing wood storage area since I did not want nooks and crannies for bugs, esp. wasps.

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Old 11-30-2010, 05:30 PM
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I am using 2, 6" I beams and cement pans for a floating deck plus the re-bar. Total overkill but I am no engineer and have no idea so I figured that will work for sure.
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:34 PM
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It is a waste of money. The FB design is already overkill even for seismic zones.
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Foundation as a useable space?

The materials are from a salvage yard so money is not the issue. But still no need for either product? I want to make a wine cellar and safe storage space?
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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If money is no object do what you want, but the FB plans are engineered.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:45 PM
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If you use enough rebar (on 6 inch centers like I did - overkill) you will have no problem spanning the gap.

I am using my space for wood and brick chip storage during construction. I will store my dried wood and smokin wood/charcoal under there later.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:22 PM
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Skip the "I" beams and pans and the concept of a "floating" slab. A well reinforced (1% rebar) slab, structurally tied to the support walls, is what I would suggest.

Your foundations look to be very deep. Is this due to frost penetration concerns ? If this is the case, and you leave it open to the atmosphere, you will defeat the purpose of deep foundations.

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Old 12-01-2010, 07:22 PM
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Yes NE frost line is 42" I went 48" does this kill my open space project? IDK! I am here for suggestions, and I assumed the I beams and pans with the poured concrete under the 48" block foundation would make up for the open space below??
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