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Old 04-24-2012, 10:39 AM
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Default Ramping up for a load of SD Boules.

I have been working on my sourdough lately and using Lodge combo cookers in my kitchen oven to great success. I received the book "Tartine Bread" by Chad Robertson, for Christmas in 2010. This book is where I discovered the reference to use the combo cooker for bread baking. Because I didn't want to spend the money for another piece of cookware, it took me a year to splurge. I fought my kitchen gas oven, trying to get loaves like I see at real bakeries and in pictures, all without complete satisfaction. In the end I decided to buy a combo cooker, just to see if my crust would improve, it did. Once I baked the first loaf, it took me another day to buy a second cooker. I bought the second cooker because 2 loaves is the same work as one loaf and I always have family of a neighbor or friend that enjoys it.

Now to translate the foundation work done in the kitchen out to the WFO.

Chris

PS Sorry for the poor picture quality and for the lack of a crumb shot. My wife stole my camera again..
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:44 PM
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Dude, that looks really good. Do you have more info on the cooker.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:32 PM
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Wow, Chris, those SD loaves are awesome. The color on the crust and rise you got is impressive. I don't know what a combo cooker is but I'll check it out now. Was it all done with your SD starter? How long (or slow-retarded) proofing did it get?

I've been eying 'Tartine Bread' and will order it too.
-Cheers, Dino
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:39 PM
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Here is a quick link to Amazon;

http://www.amazon.com/Lodge-5-Quart-...5312973&sr=8-2

PS. CostPlus has these in stock at the stores.

I feel like a 600g boule works in the 5 qt cooker, that's the single loaf is, but 800g seems to do even better. I learned a few things when I started working with the combo cooker.

1. How hard it is to get adequate steam in my gas oven, even with spaying water and a cloche covering the immature loaves.

2. How much heat loss I had during the steaming period in my oven. What I use to do was spray, and again in 5 minutes and again, for the first 16 to 18 minutes. I then went to an aluminum lasagna pan, the grocery store variety, and the loaves were better, less spray and better crusts.

3. How I had minimized shaping thinking that the crumb, the open structure, was going to be better. I’m careful about shaping so as not to lose too much gas, but by having to shape boules to fit the cooker, I found out that you can be reasonably rough and have great results. Additionally, unless you get tension in the skin of the boule the making a acceptable cut is difficult.

4. When cutting the loaves before they go into the oven, a sharp pairing knife will do but a chopstick cut down to accept a double edge razor blade does much better.

5. I got comfortable, gained confidence, with the sourdough formula that I was, and I’m still using.

Like I said, now to expand the recipe five fold. Get 8 more baskets and get it all to work in the WFO. Timing will be everything.

Chris

PS The lid part of the cooker is placed down and the deep part of the cooker is placed over the loaf; no spraying is required and the top, the deep part, is removed after 20 minutes... Voila!

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Old 04-24-2012, 05:49 PM
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Was it all done with your SD starter? How long (or slow-retarded) proofing did it get?
It was all done with my SD starter and retarded, bulk, in the fridge for 3 days. 1 to 4 seems to be fine. I removed the dough from the fridge and it sat for an hour, was shaped and sat at room temp, 72F, for 2.5 hours and was baked.

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Old 04-24-2012, 06:42 PM
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Chris, thanks for the info, I went to "The Fresh Loaf" and found out some more info " http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/20473/basic-country-bread-quottartine-breadquot-baked-dutch-ovens"
Very interesting read. I've got three dutch ovens, I'm going to have to do a little work on this.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:03 PM
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Chris,

Fantastic bread! I am envious of your results, but now know that it is possible at home. What I'm most impressed with is that you figured out a two-stage process of cloche and WFO to get your results. I have a lodge cast-iron dutch oven and can't wait to press it into action. Please look for a PM to ask for your SD recipe and process.

I too bought the Tartine Bread book via Amazon and took it last August up to San Francisco hoping to get Chad to sign it. Although I visited the Tartine bakery twice I was not able to get Chad to come out so I'm hoping you can share some of your successes.

John
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:26 PM
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Thank Gary, Dino and John, I'm a newbe relative to others here at FB and more so at The fresh loaf.

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Old 04-25-2012, 04:06 PM
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Yuuuuuuup... Nice job Chris...Your on your way!!!

Bake on!!!
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:49 AM
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Thank you Faith!

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