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Old 02-27-2014, 10:15 AM
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Default Bread of Land & Sea

Tomorrow is bake day... yippee!

Today I am playing with seawater & dried alaria trying to create the beginnings of a 'Bread of Land & Sea' for tomorrows bake... so I have some little questions of the experts here...

Will using sea water impede the development of the yeast?

I am planning on adding the seaweed in it's dry state hoping it does not come out rubbery & gooey... anyone have experience with this? Is it best added sooner or later?

Thanks in advance for your expertise... if no one replies I will just wing it & post a photo tomorrow however it turns out...
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Old 02-27-2014, 01:58 PM
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Alrighty then... guess I will just dive in!! Photos tomorrow...
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:24 PM
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First the disclaimer: I only dream about making bread that is edible, let alone reaching your standard.

Now the opinion:
Most people seem to say salt impedes yeast growth, but we all put a little salt in our dough to get some taste.

Seawater contains about 35 grams of salt per litre.

Given that you might put, say, 700mls seawater per kilo of flour, you'll be putting about 25 grams of salt to your kilo of flour. i.e. about 2.5% salt.
That appears to fall right in the range most people recommend, I think?

Then consider not all of the salt in seawater is sodium chloride.
Some is magnesium chloride, some is calcium (sulphate?).
I believe magnesium is a yeast nutrient, calcium inhibits the effect of the magnesium. Just saw this on a homebrewing website.
However there is much more magnesium than calcium in seawater, see Wikipedia, so I'm guessing that the net effect will be good for the yeast.

In theory at least, using seawater should work very well.
And how cool when you tell people that delicious bread they are eating was made with sea water?
Wish I'd thought of it.

How do you get all these good ideas?
Personally I can't point to having one single original idea in my entire life!

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Old 02-27-2014, 05:00 PM
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How do you get all these good ideas?
I don't know if they are good ideas... they are just ideas. The ocean is old and they have been making bread for a long time so I am sure I am not the first person to think of this!

I decided to to a biga with fresh water and let that ferment overnight then I will use the seawater (which I am going to boil like crazy just to be safe) to make the final dough tomorrow...
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:05 PM
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Don't forget to allow for the increase in salinity if you boil it for a long time.
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Old 02-27-2014, 05:07 PM
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got it... thanks!
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:51 PM
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Hello Annie M

Here is one article that may help. Seawater Sourdough Wheat Bread | The Fresh Loaf

And another. Ocean bread

Let us know how it comes out.
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:14 AM
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If you have time, do a quick experiment first....
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Old 02-28-2014, 08:36 AM
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Hello Faith... thank you for the links.

J... I am planning 2 loaves of the Bread of Land & Sea... one with sea salt & one with seawater so I can see if there is any difference.... tastewise.
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:42 PM
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Two Pound Loaf.... smells beautiful... crumb coming when she cools.
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