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Old 04-26-2008, 01:42 PM
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I know that Peter Reinhart's Bread Baker's Apprentice and the Hamelman one are the most recommended books, but seeing as I've already got a nice wild yeast culture going and have quite enough information about what is actually happening in the dough for the time being thank you very much - although I'll probably come back for more later - right now I'd like to know what other books are out there?

Specifically I would like a practical one with different wild yeast recepts, one that will help me vary my bread a bit. Can you add butter to the dough? Or milk? Or pumpkins? Can you make bagels with a wild yeast starter? That kind of thing...


What about Peter Reinhart's Whole Grain Breads, has anyone got that one already?
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:11 PM
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I have the whole grain book. I like it as well or even better than "the apprentice". I prefer a whole grain bread to white. His approach to this book
is a bit more relaxed. I would buy it again.


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Old 04-26-2008, 08:17 PM
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Frances
You can certainly do any of those things...bake times will be slightly different with doughs enriched with butter, milk, eggs, etc.
As for the bagels the answer is yes also...CJim might use a wild yeast starter for his bagels but I am not sure...I might not recommend it because bagels can be a touchy subject and I am somewhat of a traditionalist New Yorker when it comes to bagels...proof time will most likely be longer...could be an interesting experiment though...
The Whole Grain Breads book is a worthy investment...I received it as a gift at Christmas and have enjoyed the alteration in some of the technique of creating great bread...
Good luck and be sure to post the results
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I know that Peter Reinhart's Bread Baker's Apprentice and the Hamelman one are the most recommended books, but seeing as I've already got a nice wild yeast culture going and have quite enough information about what is actually happening in the dough for the time being thank you very much - although I'll probably come back for more later - right now I'd like to know what other books are out there?

Specifically I would like a practical one with different wild yeast recepts, one that will help me vary my bread a bit. Can you add butter to the dough? Or milk? Or pumpkins? Can you make bagels with a wild yeast starter? That kind of thing...


What about Peter Reinhart's Whole Grain Breads, has anyone got that one already?
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Reinhart says that a wet sourdough started can easily be substituted for pate fermente in virtually any artisan type bread. Frances, if you don't own this book, buy it. You'll be very very happy with the numerous varieties of recipies for breads from all over the world and great photos of bread shaping techniques.
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:07 PM
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Thank you for the feedback! Ok, I'll order the whole grain one right away and let you know how it turns out...
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:17 PM
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Thorne's Outlaw Cook.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Frances,

Bar none on the new book side of the equation: Daniel Leader, Local Breads. I've used it extensively, along with Reinhart's Whole Grain. Both are light years ahead of what we could get only a few years ago.

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Well then, I will make the investment in Leader then and not Hamelman...I have his Bread Alone
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Reinhart's Whole Grain arrived a couple of days ago. Lovely book! And with all the new info (whew!) of course there are lots of new questions, too...

Basically, compared to regular sourdough bread, what he is saying is you should soak the whole meal flour for a day before making the dough. Right?

But from what I can see his recipes all call for instant yeast as well as a preferment... Has anyone tried any with just the sourdough starter? I don't really see why it shouldn't work with longer rising times...

Yesterday I tried his whole wheat mash bread. The reason being my oven was just at the right temp for making the mash (about 70 C) the day before baking . And its very very nice. But not quite as good as the sourdough. Astonishingly good considering that its whole grain though...

Last question for the time being: is there any reason against treating one of the regular soakers in these recipes like a mash and putting it in the oven at 70 C for three hours?



Ok ok, maybe I'll stick to the book a bit before experimenting Here's the bread aynway (the tin-baked one in the foreground):
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:32 AM
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If sourdough bread interests you, you must read this book:

Amazon.com: Outlaw Cook: Matt Lewis Thorne, John Thorne: Books

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