Forno Bravo Forum: The Wood-Fired Oven Community - Pompeii Oven Construction http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/ Questions and comments on building the Pompeii Oven chamber and vent. en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:01:39 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg Forno Bravo Forum: The Wood-Fired Oven Community - Pompeii Oven Construction http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/ mortar and cold temps - http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/mortar-cold-temps-8895.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:14:04 GMT I'm sure this question has been brought up before but I'm going to ask anyway:
Will below freezing temps matter for bricks just laid? We put a light in there and covered it with a few big cloths and a tarp. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
It won't heat it up too much, will it?

The low tonight is supposed to be 31.


Thanks,
Cecelia ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction cecilB http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/mortar-cold-temps-8895.html <![CDATA[Tom's 42' Pompeii, Penn Valley, Ca.]]> http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/toms-42-pompeii-penn-valley-ca-8888.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:00:55 GMT I'm started my project with moving a rock wall, because where we wanted to put the oven was too close to the property line. My wife helped me and we completed the task in one day, which included her decorating a little.
I also put down some road rock on the hillside so I can access the sight with my truck and tractor this winter.
I couldn't do any of the work I've done on our property without the tractor. We are on 5 acres somewhat between Sacramento and Tahoe.
I am attaching some pictures of the progress so far.
Thank you to everyone before me, your ideas and hard work are an inspiration. I just hope my work will turn out good enough to post pictures of. :)

Tom
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]]> Pompeii Oven Construction trockyh http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/toms-42-pompeii-penn-valley-ca-8888.html Insulating Blanket and Vermiculite http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/insulating-blanket-vermiculite-8868.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:30:05 GMT I about to insulate this Pizza Oven and have read thru the plans enough to understand that I really did not need the Vermiculite I bought if I was planning to have 3 in of blanket around the oven. If I have 3 in of blanket and I want to add the Vermiculitte anyway do you add this stuff mixed with... I about to insulate this Pizza Oven and have read thru the plans enough to understand that I really did not need the Vermiculite I bought if I was planning to have 3 in of blanket around the oven. If I have 3 in of blanket and I want to add the Vermiculitte anyway do you add this stuff mixed with cement or will loose be just fine around the blanket and the open areas of the oven?

I have surrounded my oven with 4 in block instead of using steal studs as I have seen here. I plan on facing the entire oven in the spring as it is getting a little cold to do a stone veneer or stone work around the entire oven. I want to at least just enclose the roof and make sure the oven s insulated properly. I just do not want to ruin the insulated blanket with wet Vermiculitte Mortar Mix. Thoughts and comments?

Dino ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction dinoforno http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/insulating-blanket-vermiculite-8868.html covering a stainless flue ? http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/covering-stainless-flue-8818.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:30:03 GMT hello again,
can anyone tell me if wrapping my stainless steel flue with chicken wire and covering in a cement mix will work. what mixture would you use if so?
i have an oven that looks old and i don't like a brand new pretty piece of stainless stickin out, so i though covering it would be nice.... anyone? thanks and God Bless ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction interguglielmi http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/covering-stainless-flue-8818.html Firebrick Hearth Uneven http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/firebrick-hearth-uneven-8813.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:09:36 GMT Hi folks. It's been a while since I have posted on the site. My oven was completed last summer. It's been over a year now of enjoyment with pizza's and breads.

I noticed the other day when I fired it up that some (2) of the bricks just inside the entry way and to the left are not even. My rake and peel catch the edge. I do not remember this being the case when I built it. So my suspicion is that this has developed over the last year or so. I am built on the fibre board (2" thick as I recall).

Is it possible the fibre board has compressed and has caused this to happen?

Post #14 in my thread shows the picture:

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/8/to...ld-4678-2.html

Should I worry about this? ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction tdibratt http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/firebrick-hearth-uneven-8813.html Can a Flue Be Too BIG? http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/can-flue-too-big-8808.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:58:59 GMT sorry for the double post.... guess i should have done it here...

well my question is ? i have a 40" oven. if i got a 12" X 4 1/2" Flue made for the full size of the vent opening, will that be too big? Will it draw u think..... i had a 6" round pipe before and some some got out but i am wondering if gettin a fabricated one made up for the size of the whole vent opening, will it cause it not to draw if too big ? What do ya'll think ? thanks alot God Bless ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction interguglielmi http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/can-flue-too-big-8808.html Hearth floor support http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/hearth-floor-support-8767.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:40:33 GMT Hi Guys, Well I may not have decided what I am doing for my oven construction yet but sounds like the pompeii is what I will have to do. (he says as he shakes in fear) I will ask my question it may sound like overkill but I dont like 1/2 doing things. Once I have done the construction... Hi Guys,

Well I may not have decided what I am doing for my oven construction yet but sounds like the pompeii is what I will have to do. (he says as he shakes in fear)

I will ask my question it may sound like overkill but I dont like 1/2 doing things.

Once I have done the construction for the hearth prior to laying the cement I was looking at using LYSAGHT BONDEK instead of the plywood or MDF that everyone seems to use. This is what is used to support concrete floors in office building from what I can gather.

It seems to also have a fire rating not that the slab will be getting too hot with proper insulation.

Is there any one that can see and issues with using this on the floor. Good Idea or Bad idea?

I will take a pic of the are I am looking at using and will see comments on foundations recommendations.

Thanks for now
ikhan42 ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction ikhan42 http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/hearth-floor-support-8767.html <![CDATA[Dave's Northern Virginia Build]]> http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/daves-northern-virginia-build-8762.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:21:00 GMT Picasa Web Albums - daveandtee - pizza (http://picasaweb.google.com/fornososo/Pizza#) I am very impressed with everyone's projects. Excellent work guys, I hope I can...]]> Hi All,
I am in the process of building an outdoor kitchen/pizza oven/Roman square in our back yard. The photos are here ---->
Picasa Web Albums - daveandtee - pizza

I am very impressed with everyone's projects. Excellent work guys, I hope I can run with the big dogs, or at least the chiwawa.
dave ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction DaveW http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/daves-northern-virginia-build-8762.html <![CDATA[The Greco's WFO - Long Island]]> http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/grecos-wfo-long-island-8759.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:41:53 GMT I have spent months reading on the forum and have finally started my build. Attached are pictures of the stand. I plan on filling the cores and pouring the hearth this weekend. I have a few questions.... I plan on leaving the angle iron the way it is in the picture. The weight of the... I have spent months reading on the forum and have finally started my build. Attached are pictures of the stand. I plan on filling the cores and pouring the hearth this weekend.

I have a few questions....

I plan on leaving the angle iron the way it is in the picture. The weight of the concrete board and the hearth poured over and around it should hold it in place. I dont see a reason to recess it into the concrete block. Does anyone see a problem with this?

The hearth will be 3.5 inches of concrete. I am not using an insulating concrete on top of that, I do plan on using the FB board placed after curing.

I am using 1/2 inch rebar about every 10". What is the best method to raise the rebar to the proper height within the hearth when pouring the concrete?

I left the rebar within the stand about 1.5" above the top so it will tie in the stand with the hearth.

When pouring the hearth, how do you prevent the concrete from leaking out through and small gaps in the form?

Should I rent a mixer to fill the cores and make the hearth, or can I do it by hand with the help of some friends?
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]]> Pompeii Oven Construction dsgreco http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/grecos-wfo-long-island-8759.html Igloo or enclosed, which is better? http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/igloo-enclosed-better-8720.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:34:53 GMT Igloo or enclosed, which is better? I was all set to enclose the oven when Catherine stated she liked the look of the igloo. I'm curious if the insulating properties of an enclosed oven is far better than an igloo insulation.

Mark ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction DOC Opa http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/igloo-enclosed-better-8720.html Soldier or no soldier? http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/soldier-no-soldier-8702.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:54:04 GMT Does the soldier layer really serve a function? Is it structurally necessary? Why not just start right out laying identical courses? Does the soldier layer really serve a function? Is it structurally necessary? Why not just start right out laying identical courses? ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction goodgulf http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/soldier-no-soldier-8702.html Draft basics? http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/draft-basics-8660.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:05:19 GMT Hey guys trying to get ready to design vent size. I'm pulling off of memory but I think I read you get the best draft from going large to small areas. Is that correct. Because I'm so tight I will only be able to brick the inner arch. From ther I have to pour the front arch. The poening is 20" so i was thinking 20" wide x 4" deepx 6" tall. From there taper to a n 8" wide x 4" deep to set the anchor plate. Does that sound like I'm the right track.
Thanks,
Mike ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction mikeye15 http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/draft-basics-8660.html Concrete vs refractory cement for mass http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/concrete-vs-refractory-cement-mass-8643.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:50:58 GMT Hi, I want to add the optional extra mass over the vermiculite insulating slab. Do I really need to use refractory cement or can I use reinforced concrete instead? I like the idea of spreading the load on the vermiculite considering that I will have a masonry chimney partially supported by the... Hi,
I want to add the optional extra mass over the vermiculite insulating slab. Do I really need to use refractory cement or can I use reinforced concrete instead? I like the idea of spreading the load on the vermiculite considering that I will have a masonry chimney partially supported by the oven/vermiculite slab. I am thinking concrete because I assume it would be stronger and it is certainly cheaper.
Thanks,
Dave ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction DaveW http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/concrete-vs-refractory-cement-mass-8643.html <![CDATA[Greg's Pompeii - Columbus]]> http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/gregs-pompeii-columbus-8641.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:58:19 GMT $1000) http://picasaweb.google.com/leckig/FornoBravoPompeiiPizzaOvenConstruction?authkey=Gv1sRgCIP8kp7krcfd3gE&feat=directlink Well, what you guys think? They say 30F tonight, I covered the slab with plastic film, I hope that...]]> Stage one is now completed.

(and I already know it will be >$1000)
http://picasaweb.google.com/leckig/F...eat=directlink


Well, what you guys think? They say 30F tonight, I covered the slab with plastic film, I hope that should be fine. ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction leckig http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/gregs-pompeii-columbus-8641.html Pompeii made with cement pavers http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/pompeii-made-cement-pavers-8636.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:54:35 GMT I got to check out a 42" Pompeii (style only but not from the FB plans) oven being built by a neighbour with advice from another but unknown person and I informed him that the bricks that he made the dome from were cement pavers, not fired clay pavers and were totally unsuitable for the oven dome construction.
I showed him the difference between cement and clay bricks which was new to him. He also had a new crowbar trying to break up the polystyrene foam mould from inside the completed dome, He is about ready to insulate it and then brick up the entrance void and put in the 8" chimney.
I was looking carefully at his hearth which are fire bricks and asked if he had insulated his base. No, was his reply! Sad news as I explained the consequences and recommended that he demolish the dome, lift his hearth and I would help him build a new insulated floor, relay his hearth and then rebrick his dome.
At this stage, I am not sure of what he will do but I will find out in due course.
It will only be 2 days work and well worth the extra effort now instead of trying to cope with the consequences.
I think that there is a lesson buried deep in here somewhere, join this forum, research your ideas, ask questions, follow a couple of builds and then progress with help from the forum if needed.
Don't have blind faith in some one or something that you have little knowledge about.

Neill ]]> Pompeii Oven Construction nissanneill http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/pompeii-made-cement-pavers-8636.html