Glass door for the view

[woodfried]

excellent!

[Amac]

I knew I'd seen someone had a cool glass door - of course it had to be jcg31 designer of the perfect IT. This thread deserves refreshing to get to the front page so..
I was asking about this glass today from a local glaziers. They mentioned stove glass - which is I guess pretty good for heat but I wonder how fragile is this glass and what kind of expansion could you expect?
What I had been contemplating was the type of glass they use on elctric cooker hobs, or oven doors. Is this glass similar to any of these?
Aidan

[RandyJ]

Wow I love the glass door. That was a great idea to keep the heat in and still be able to see the fire and food. Excellent job.

Randy

[jcg31]

Aiden,

Not sure, but if you call the folk at one day glass (see link at top of post) they were very willing to answer questions even on alternatives to their offerings. While pricey, it seems to last forever under rediculous conditions. I routinely will have this up against 900+ degrees when bringing the oven up to temp and because this is the time when the glass is most likely to get a film of soot, grab a handfull of snow or use a spray bottle during warmer weather and wipe down the glass to remove the soot with no impact on the glass.

This remains my favorite and useful project for the oven, but getting the glass right is essential. The other advantage of one day is they will cut the glass in any shape you would like, and the turnaround was as promised.

Thanks for the kind words.
Jim

Originally Posted by Amac

I knew I'd seen someone had a cool glass door - of course it had to be jcg31 designer of the perfect IT. This thread deserves refreshing to get to the front page so..
I was asking about this glass today from a local glaziers. They mentioned stove glass - which is I guess pretty good for heat but I wonder how fragile is this glass and what kind of expansion could you expect?
What I had been contemplating was the type of glass they use on elctric cooker hobs, or oven doors. Is this glass similar to any of these?
Aidan

[Amac]

thanks Jim
I did follow up and even got a quote from onedayglass ($108 without shipping costs).
It is available in the Uk and what appears to be a very similar product to neoceram called Robax I can get from local glaziers:

Thanks to its extremely low thermal expansion, neither high temperatures (up to 760°C) nor considerable temperature changes can do harm to SCHOTT ROBAX® glass ceramic panels.

It seems very similar as I say but I got a quote of 120Eur ($158) to cut my semicircle.
Not sure I have the engineering skill to make that door anyway so I will leave it till later and meanwhile I will maybe try to copy your wooden door ( I found on some other thread) instead. I am looking for that glass fibre tape. One or other of these should do the trick I guess
High Temperature Tape: Heat & Flame Resistant & Thermal Insulation Tape for Wire Cable Hose Protection

[jcg31]

I keep meaning to post the plans for the insulated door (my second favorite project) - - perhaps this weekend. If you find you can only get the thermal tape in lengths far exceeding your needs, I still have some left and would be happy to send to you if you will pay the freight across the pond.

Jim

Originally Posted by Amac

thanks Jim
I did follow up and even got a quote from onedayglass ($108 without shipping costs).
It is available in the Uk and what appears to be a very similar product to neoceram called Robax I can get from local glaziers:



It seems very similar as I say but I got a quote of 120Eur ($158) to cut my semicircle.
Not sure I have the engineering skill to make that door anyway so I will leave it till later and meanwhile I will maybe try to copy your wooden door ( I found on some other thread) instead. I am looking for that glass fibre tape. One or other of these should do the trick I guess
High Temperature Tape: Heat & Flame Resistant & Thermal Insulation Tape for Wire Cable Hose Protection

[Amac]

Originally Posted by jcg31

I keep meaning to post the plans for the insulated door (my second favorite project) - - perhaps this weekend. If you find you can only get the thermal tape in lengths far exceeding your needs, I still have some left and would be happy to send to you if you will pay the freight across the pond.

Jim

look forward to see those plans. I have a bit to do before I get to needing a door - still have to finish the oven - but I am on the lookout for good ideas and your IT (which I modelled mine on) and doors are up there with the best.
Hopefully I won't need to take you up on that offer but I do appreciate it and might be back to you. thanks again
Aidan

[Moley]

Hi fellow chef extraordinares (?)
I have cut a new hebel door for my oven and was planning on putting a smallish window say 150 x 100 mm to check on the progress of roasts, breads etc without removing the door and thus letting heat out. My question is, should I double glaze by putting one piece inside and another outside or run with a single piece? Hello from beautiful (chilly) Tasmania.
Geoff

[Amac]

Hi Geoff
Can't help you with any answers but I had a similar idea - instead of shaping the glass to fit the entire door as jim has - to put a rectangular window in some kind of wooden frame. I think this ceramic glass can be cut like normal glass, so maybe by raiding the local recycling centre an old electric oven door could supply the glass and I could do it myself.
I would do the double glaze - but I am not sure what the implications are. You have to keep the panes not more than x mm apart to allow for maximum insulation, and also how do you seal them, or would you get a local glazier to do that part.

Do you think that would allow enough light to see or do you have some internal light fitted?

[Laku]

I think someone mentioned earlier that ceramic glass can't be cut like ordinary glass. But that's just my recollection so take it with a grain of salt.