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Old 12-07-2012, 08:50 PM
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Hey Chipster,

I work at Snowbird as an instructor on weekends but I live in an area called the Avenues which is by the Capital. Give me a shout if you get a car.
Check your PM's, I will be in town would love to drop by.

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Old 01-03-2013, 11:56 PM
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Wow! I see that you actually have weather where you live. You probably already thought of this, but just in case you haven't I picked up a great trip on the forums. On the third day after your pizza when the ovens about 250 put 4 to 5 logs in to dry out for the next fire.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:21 AM
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Hi Russell

I have noticed you have finished your oven surrounds with polished concrete.

I have a question, i have included some photos to give you an idea of what i am trying to achieve. Once i finish the dome i am looking at a polished granite landing and what i want to do with the oven exterior is to finish it with render that looks like the granite in the photos. I'm not sure how to achieve this I was thinking on the last decorative render coat possibly 5-10mm thick, to include some 5-7mm granite fines i can get over here [in aus], mixing it in with the render and then using a diamond cup wheel to grind it back. I'm not necessarily looking for a polished finish but just similar to the bowl, lantern and some natural rocks i have in the garden. I believe i would need to use a white render with a little grey mixed in to achieve the light grey tone. This will keep the overall theme continuous throughout.

Any suggestions?, will this work?

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Old 02-05-2013, 06:53 PM
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I just checked the link to your build in progress.
The artisan level of quality, attention to detail and skill of execution is phenomenal. Beauty and functionality combined! Wow!

A copper dome cover is another challenge in itself! Really looking forward to seeing progress photos and how you resolve fastening, and transitions.

Not so many new constructions with copper here. XXX Expensive, plus easily damaged by acid rain. Temples, Heritage sites, and wealthy farmers are some of the few who can still afford them. The copper develops a beautiful patina in about a year.

I asked a 'bankin-ya-san", tradesman skilled in sheetmetals about copper roofs-
He said that even using thicker materials does not help with the corrosion issues, thicker adds cost, weight, difficulty in fabrication AND tends to crack more easily with tight bends! Light weight roofs now designed for longivity are using "colored stainless steel". I do not know how the copper shingles are fastened (special copper clips?); (elongated nail holes?) but attention must be paid to non-reactive metals and thermal expansion.

Your build is a shining example of dedication and quality !!!
Congratulations of the highest level are in order!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:25 PM
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A very, very long time ago, I saw an article in "fine homebuilding" about someone making their own copper shingles. It interested me then-but have not had a subscription to that magazine for ages. It was not for a standing seam application but an interlocking style. For your application, some real short sheetmetal brake (with thin jaws) would work very well. But you need to create
180 deg bends-all edges, bottom folded under, top folder over, right or left--same as top to bottom depending how you are making your run.. I think? Maybe the same "trapezium dome" pattern could be used or modified to create your shingles? Just a thought- but should be beautiful once completed!

The sheetmetal guys here have specialty hand tools for making jobsite bends- but the jaw ranges in width from 30mm upward. (all hand forged). You could do a longer bend in sections--slowly. But some type of a brake, even hand built would really save time. Important point is a jaw that can rotate past 90 to 135 deg or more, then an ability to take it out and finish the bend to go to 180 minus!

Maybe you had some other thoughts? Would be interested in how you approach this challenge!
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:36 PM
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Could you give link to copper roof build guy?

The photo shows a real important detail, the base flashing!
Once you get your insulation in place, maybe very similar situation.
I am sure you will have special cases where the copper meets to decorative arch that must be addressed. It looks like a difficult challenge in getting weatherproof joints!

Will you have to make solder joints for your chimney penetration/flashing detail?

The finished product should look just great --from your previous work, you surely are up to the challenge!

Have you ever thought about an exterior structure to enclose your outdoor spaces, at least protection from rain or snow elements? If you had one now, you could be "literally" "TINKERING" your time away--on your oven!

keep building!
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:34 PM
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Wow! Sorry to see that, it is really quite crazy. I guess I am probably quite lucky not to have the extremes of temperature you've got there in Utah. But I'd take the powder as a compromise...
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:29 PM
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That is an entire issue on its own. Judging from your skills, anything is possible...you have to choose something that will reflect your personality and fit into your surroundings.

I made the decision to go igloo and as simple as possible to get it operational.
I believe these WFO's must be protected from the elements--so my creative juices can be spent on the enclosure.. Another hurdle to cross in the future!

From my short amount of time playing with the render, I think that you will be able to fasten your copper to the render coat using plastic inserts and screws--easy enough... But the shell the architect in Chicago uses probably isolates the copper from the cement...maybe a corrosive agent.

Sorry to hear about your counters--they were sure looking great!
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:00 PM
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Russell,
I hate to see that damage to your counters. Did you use any fortifiers during, and sealants after your pour? If so what brands? Like DJ, I am glad that I am not subjected to the extremes of your weather. But, I am all about any covering that doesn't take away the profile of an igloo. I hope you come up with a fix for that pretty counter.
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What a bummer man, it seems like the glass and cement bonding has failed.
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