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Old 08-27-2013, 05:09 PM
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While this may not correspond all that well to the swedish A-team members (bench drinkers), it might be close enough. This is my way of saying, thank you.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:04 AM
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Yesterday was trouble, me being a pitiful fool. I was busy all the night, so no progress in plans.

Some things in life are not that nice, like going thru your vacuum cleaners dust bag. I think all of us can relate to this matter. Vacuuming up small but inportant things.

Here's the deal, yesterday when i was out fishing and taking photos i did this really dumb thing. I dropped my mobile in to the water between these rocks and it quitely sank down. Fast as **** i put my arm in to the water. I was lucky it didin't go to deep or into an unreacheble opening. In no more then 5 seconds i had the mobile in safe hands again.

I really wasn't in the mood to go straight home and dry it, i wanted some fish! and at first it seemed to work just fine. but later it started to do strange things, and the screen was flickering and turning damp and i could not turn the damn thing off. Battery can not be removed without engaging with tools.

Later when i got home. i managed to turn it off, so i went down to the laundry in my building. Placed it in the drying cabinet and waited. When i took it out and turened it on, it wouldn't go on. Ok, why not let it cool down first, i thougt. Sucess, now it was working! but there were still a lot of moisture in the screen Turned on oven, minimum heat, open door and a vacuum cleaner...

The deal, i ended up sucking up power button and a dust cover.
In the middle of the night i was going thru my dust. I managed to find the power button, reasembled the phone and to my delight the phone was working and most of the moisture was gone. Except one thing, the antenna cable had snapped. Now i'm about to order an antenna cable. So this is why there wasn't any progress in my work.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:18 AM
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Those technicians are sure crazy. How can they fit that much electronics into this thin small case, it's ridiculous! If anyone is wondering. This is how the Sony Xperia S looks like inside.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:21 PM
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Besides this, yesterday was a success. First i went to the library where to find all sorts of usefull information. They have this ongoing exhibition about my domicile.

#1: Either the Swedish people were very small in the past, or they are incredibly much bigger now. This wood stove is called the Bolinder Baby, i guess it's for small people and by that i mean childs.

#2: More cast iron from the factory of Bolinder's. In their earliest years they were producing steam engines and later on they began to make Wood Stoves, heaters and kitchenwares like frying pans, kettles, waffle irons and meat grinders. This is some of the selection they made. I don't know if they make any bake oven doors, couldn't find one. But that would have been my first choice. By the way, I think the door i got hold of is from the Jugend epoch and that being around 1890 to 1920.

#3: Air force wing F8. Old planes are cool.

#4: Some old kerosene stoves.

#5: Old tecnology are also cool, and by looking at my phone i just realised how far we have come. This keyboard model 3100 is of an old mechanical type (therefore the thickness) for IBM-computers, German made.

#6: I also found these great books. Gamla SPISAR är heta! (Old WOOD OVENS are smoking hot!) and VED (FIREWOOD) a 171 pages long book about firewood, now that can't be bad, i love these kind of books. Much better then any kind of fiction.

No fish were cought, but that's not what fishing is about anyway.
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How are you going to finish it?
I was thinkink of Leca balls aka claydite, Hydrograins. I think they are about 8-14mm and use this instead of vermiculite. I don't know the mixing ratio, but i think i read about it somewere here on FB. I have already bought one of these Bags. They're cheap, 24,27 $ for a bag of 55 lb. But after discovering this web site (and thank god for that) i have become an insufferable snob, the best would only be good enough for me. I am thinking of going with vermiculite anyway.

I also have a lot of insulating fire board left. I have been thinking, could one cut these up in small pieces and make an vermicret kind of mass of that, what do you think ?

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Might add some buttress to the outside of your arch columns as well..Out side pressure, need mass to hold
The door has this carrying rim on the backside, the outer arch is partially gonna rest on this, and the inner arch will of course rest on the dome. Will this be enough ? the oven is, as you know, not so great.

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If it doesn't spread smooth when applied dry, i wouldn't use it there.
Is this the way to go ? The forno bravo instruction says "To make the under floor paste, mix 1 part fine sand and 1 part fireclay (photo 2) with water until you reach the texture of a sticky mortar (but without the cement)"

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it looks like you may only have 3-4" of space around the floor in the pic.
Actually it's just 2" of space. I have these restrictions my parents account for. Can not go any bigger. But these 2" is only in three spots and i will begin to make the vermicrete layer thicker just as im getting higher up. Against the dome i will have this Rockwool fire insulation blanket with a metal net on it, it's for the industrial market. But i found it at the local DIY store. It's 1" thick. And i think this is more then enough anyway, even if i now have become a insufferable snob, we don't have these huge demands.

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Old 08-29-2013, 01:39 PM
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Is this the way to go ? The forno bravo instruction says "To make the under floor paste, mix 1 part fine sand and 1 part fireclay (photo 2) with water until you reach the texture of a sticky mortar (but without the cement)"

Actually it's just 2" of space. I have these restrictions my parents account for. Can not go any bigger. But these 2" is only in three spots and i will begin to make the vermicrete layer thicker just as im getting higher up. Against the dome i will have this Rockwool fire insulation blanket with a metal net on it, it's for the industrial market. But i found it at the local DIY store. It's 1" thick. And i think this is more then enough anyway, even if i now have become a insufferable snob, we don't have these huge demands.
Mixing the clay with sand to make paste is fine. I just meant if the clay did not smooth out, don't use it. (no lumps) i used dry fireclay and spread it on fB board. I sprayed water from a hand mister to keep from blowing around while i set floor bricks.

Your space will work. I was mainly concerned if you were not setting dome on floor brick. Are you putting a veneer layer on your base? that may give some more space around the floor to insulate and cover.

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Old 08-29-2013, 01:54 PM
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Ok, it was the water part i was worried about.

A veneer layer is something i don't know about, Unfortunately.

The only veneer i know about is the one i use as a carpenter.
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Ok, it was the water part i was worried about.

A veneer layer is something i don't know about, Unfortunately.

The only veneer i know about is the one i use as a carpenter.
Veneer that I am talking about is a layer of brick, rock, tile, etc. to cover your existing base of your oven. Whatever the thickness of the veneer would give you that much room to support your dome insulation and final covering of the dome. make sense?
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Old 08-29-2013, 02:22 PM
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I think so, This is my plan:
On the lightweight concrete boards i will use this fire clay mixture. Then level the oven floor, build the dome on the floor bricks and put pieces of tile around it.

What do you think about the idea of using pieces of fire board instead of vermicrete in the outer insulating layer, do you think this would work or is this a bad idea ? I understand if you don't have the answer to this, nothing i found information on when in search for it.
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are you putting the concrete board underneath the floor bricks? you dont want to do that. too much heat there. You can put the concrete board on the slab then the insulating board then the leveling stuff then the floor brick.

I do not see why you cant use the insulating board on the dome if you are willing to cut it into smaller pieces and somehow hold it in place. that is the challenge i think. The blanket is just easier there, but has the same characteristics.

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