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Old 07-04-2009, 11:35 AM
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Hi Shay,

I've started my outdoor kitchen and about to pour my oven foundation slab and had a question regarding the 3:2:2 mortar recipe you mentioned. I can purchase sand and fireclay locally, but is the mortar mix you used already have sand in it? I assume you're referring to the standard mortar mix one can get at the big box stores. Any clarification would be most appreciated.

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Old 07-04-2009, 01:54 PM
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John, you need Type N Masonry Cement. That's a mix of Portland and Lime. With that you do 3 parts sand, 2 parts fireclay and 2 parts masonry cement. I got all 3 at my local box store.
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:21 PM
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Hey John,
You can mix 3:2:1:half ( fine sand, fire clay, portland, and lime ) This way, you know that the fire clay is twice the portland. You can buy fine sand, a 94lb bag of portland, lime and fire clay. I am planning to do some experiments with mortar when I start firing my oven to high temps regularly.

I used this mix throughout for the dome and it worked great.

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Old 07-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the quick responses Shay and Lars!

I have decided to make my oven using homebrew mortar mostly for the cost savings. If I had to I would use the Heatstop50, but the first half-dozen places I called to ask for pricing stopped carrying it. I can get fireclay for $9 per 55# bag and the rest of the stuff is at a box store 1.5mi from my house.

Thanks again. Good-looking build ya got goin'. It'll be a great place to party on those warm summer evenings!

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Old 07-05-2009, 07:17 PM
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I finally completed the oven opening to my satisfaction. Once I was happy with that I worked on the arch and that came out pretty good. Learned a few things that I think will help with subsequent arches. For now though I'm going to concentrate on the oven.

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Shay,

Sorry to hear about the tear down and rebuild....Its looking good however. I finally got my forms finished for the slab now I just need to get three sidewalk squares busted up and framed, they need it and I'll have concrete left over from the slab...I am aiming to pour on Friday.

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Nice Peter, once you pour the fun truly begins!
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:05 PM
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I'm getting close to completing the dome.. just a few more chains. If the weather holds out I'm going to try and get to just before inserting the keystone.. I might let it sit for a couple of days before I put that in.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:35 PM
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Shay, I am absolutely stunned with your progress. From floor roughed out to Keystone in five, maybe six days, and a few rebuilds on the arch to boot, that has to be a fbworld record, and it looks great.
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:24 AM
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Thanks Jim! I was able to put the 'wheel' on the tool today and finish most of the top. Only have the final keystone to make and place.. I'm going to let it set up for a couple hours before I finish it up.

The only downside I have now is that I neglected to sponge off the inside yesterday after I was done and now today I can't get the residue off. Will this burn off eventually? It's all pretty high up so the casual observer shouldn't see it but I will..

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