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Old 11-04-2006, 07:12 PM
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The 5th chain of bricks will rest upon the middle bricks of the arch over the door. The angles of those cuts arent exactly precise, but I think mortar will hide that. I'm glad no-one will ever see the outside of these. Or the inside near the door for that matter......
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Old 11-05-2006, 02:39 AM
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Hey there. Your oven is looking awesome. Anything you might have done differently on the arch if you had it to do over? I'm about to tackle that beast myself, and I'm weighing options..
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:15 PM
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Hi, thanks. Well..

I would have liked to find a place to rent either a saw with a bigger blade or one that cuts angles. I had to move the table out of the way and freehand many of those cuts, and they didn't turn out great.

Also, if I had a saw that would have allowed it easily, I would have liked to cut each of the arch bricks into more of a wedge shape. I only cut the keystone as a wedge and that was basically freehand.

I also should have taken more time.

It's not that complex, someone with more patience and more skills would have had it come out round. I'm about to post the next two chains, you can see the oven is out of round above the arch. Nobody will ever see it unless they stick their head in the oven, I'll have to make sure it's too hot to do so before I have any friends over.
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:21 PM
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Default 5th chain, first full 'circle'

The fifth chain is the first one that went all the way around the circle. It's out of round near the arch, but as said in my last post, I'm not worried about it.

The fifth chain is the first chain I cut the half bricks into trapezoids. I wish I had done it starting about chain 3, it was easy and allowed them to fit much tighter. I just measured the would be gap between the bottom of two square bricks and cut a piece of wood half that width. I then used the wood to tilt each block and ran both sides throught the wet saw. Pretty simple, used less mortar and leaves the bricks tighter.
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Old 11-05-2006, 05:28 PM
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I increased the angle on the trapezoids for this chain. Didn't really focus on improving the "out of roundness" around the arch, but I think I will on the next chain.

I've noticed the the foam forms are more in the way than anything up to this point btw. A few wedges made of plywood have been far more helpful. I believe the oven would be rounder if I hadn't used the forms.

They were really only there for the last few chains though, so I suspect I'm about to really like them being there as gravity starts to fight me keeping bricks in place.

I got brave at the end of the day today and took the form out from underneath the arch. Seems quite strong, I'm glad I went that route.

We have 6 year old twins. They keep asking me "where does the pizza go?"

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Old 11-05-2006, 07:20 PM
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The fifth chain is the first chain I cut the half bricks into trapezoids. I wish I had done it starting about chain 3, it was easy and allowed them to fit much tighter.
I'm a great believer in close fitting bricks. Your project is looking great.

Don't worry about the out of roundness, any critic will have to crawl into the oven to see it, and you can treat them the same way you would a guest who checks under the sofa for dust.
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Old 11-05-2006, 07:36 PM
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Your first chain of bricks will make the inside of the oven look better in my opinion the way you laid them. Not that anyone is going to notice except oven geeks like us.. How is the transplanted redwood? My dad grew (is growing) a redwood forest in Tasmania and he said he waters the living hell out of the transplants until they adjust. What are the taper measurements of your shim?
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:45 PM
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The redwood is doing great, I think it actually grew more this year than last. It's pretty young or I couldn't have moved it. I put a circular drip line around it fairly close to the trunk. I need to move that outward to get the roots to spread.

From memory the shim for the 5th chain was 3/16 of an inch, and the next chain was more like 1/4 inch. I didn't actually measure that one. I grabbed a scrap that looked right, made 2 cuts and liked the angle of the bricks.
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Jahysea:



Nice job!

In the following steps you would like to cover the vanes with a plastic or aluminum sheet (this last is better in both, structural and cleaning ways), just because the bricks will be leaned and the cement try to obey the gravity laws. J

By other way, the pictures show some gaps or different brick levels in your landing area. Not to much worry if you are thinking in leveling latter. Is expected that your oven hearth be leveled at this time!

In the picture that shows your entry front, I am not seeing a good “shape” to your future door. The two soldier bricks are almost covered by the entry bricks (the door is going to rest over these bricks) and over these soldiers there are a space left between the arch of the entry and them that could be difficult to close with your future door.

I hope this help.



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Old 11-08-2006, 06:46 AM
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Hi Luis, thanks. I have some aluminum flashing left from the roll I put on top of the blocks, I could use that.

The floor is somewhat level. The bricks at the front in the photo's are not yet set. There are gaps in the ones that are set, partially because the bricks at our building supply place are not particularly clean and square. I sorted through and used the best ones for the floor but still got some gaps. I expect those gaps will fill with ash over time. From what I've read I can sand or grind off irregularities in height later if they are bothersome.

The two soldier bricks at the entrace are left intruding into the arch by design, as a stop for the door as you say. I don't understand why the gaps in front of them will be a problem? I plan to have a door fabricated using my wood form as a template, the door will sit on the outside of the soldier bricks and those gaps on top of them will be on the other side of the door. Just as the form goes in and leaves little to no gap.
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