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Old 10-06-2005, 06:46 PM
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Marcel - Thanks for the info. I saw your post about the chimney / vent on the other forum. This guy - arevalo53anos - has some pretty good detail on his chimney made from brick. They are somewhere on this site.

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(M) Luis, a Brazilian engineer with whom I've been in private contact, uses a clay liner for a flue. I'm not sure if there are pictures of brick covering it, or if he has even chosen to so build, but you are correct if you are implying that he used no metal for the transition. I think his damper, made of a piece of sheet metal that slides between the bricks is a super idea! Closing it almost completely could help smoke meats at a lower temperature.

(M) btw, I feel that our private correspondence at this point is helpful for the larger community. Would you consider OK ing my Copy-Pasting this exchange?

Ciao,

Marcel

(L) Re: Luis Arevalo uses a clay liner. No problem - I usually go offline to reduce the chatter - but you are right, any bit of info may help someone.

Les...

(M) I probably will bypass the clay liner, partly because I haven't found any source close by, partly because any liner, clay or steel, forces me to conform to it's shape when cladding it, and partly because brick is less susceptible to breakage.

Ciao,

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P.S. Thanks, Paul for your clarification, above.
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:01 PM
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Just one comment here. Using a terra cotta is very widely done and works great. Our local brickyard has a couple of different sizes.

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Old 10-06-2005, 08:21 PM
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thanks james, i'll check it out. i was thinking of using T.C. or brick. i did this:



...to give my brick/ or terra cotta chimney something to sit on. i figure this way, i could potentially build a brick chimney straight up, leaving the front edge exposed for asthetics.
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Hi, friends

May be this helps.
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Hi, again:

Looking here, by similar posted pictures, I saw better series in the thread – detailed vent/chimney photos by Les Dale - .
You would like to take a look there, for more details.
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thanks,
i have already completed the section you posted pictures of--it's very similar to yours actually, i just used arch bricks to hold the opening rather than the two straight pieces you used. also, i already made a similar rest for the chimney out of mortar, then castable refractory insulation. here's an updated picture:



i know the entire approach i ended up taking for this area is a bit strange--essentially using the galvanized section as a form for a masonry vent section---but it worked. you have to look back at the older pictures to see what's going on here. the castable insulation is as hard is the mortar beneath it, and i think all of that extra weight will help keep the arch put.

also, as you can see, i started framing in the walls. i used drop in anchors to jold the bottom track in, and put a few studs up, but it's raining again!!! by the way, there was an earlier discussion about cutting metal studs with tin snips vs. using a cutoff blade. unless you are using a really light gauge metal, the cutoff blade really is easier. you don't need to bend the tabs i was talking about if you are using track to end the studs in, but it's really helpful in some places to do so.
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got some framing done today, but the dark got the best of me. almost ready to put up the durarock!



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Old 10-13-2005, 04:17 AM
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Lookin good Paul! What do you have in mind for the cover. I want to put comp on mine (to match the house, garage, gazeebo's) but I am concerned about the heat with plywood on top. If I used durock, it would be a bitch to fasten it. If I recall, didn't you mention that you were seeing around 120 deg. coming off the dome - if so, wood wouldn't be a problem.

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i'm putting durarock on top (which should be an effective heat barrier, anyway), then wood framing a roof over that with overhangs. this will be plywood decked, then laid with pond liner and covered with soil and planted. (there will be a frame around the edges to hold in the soil.)

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Old 10-13-2005, 11:33 PM
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ok, so i fired the oven up a while ago to see how it vents, and help combat the constant drizzle and mist by warming everything up a bit. it's venting pretty well, and almost all of the smoke ends up in the chimney, but i am getting a little blow-by, this is probably mostly being caused by my vent opening being a little small. it does a really interesting thing, where a puff of smoke will creep out the edge of the arch, then curl back in and up the chimney.

this blow-by is a bummer, but this decision was made so that the vent section of the arch would help hold in the part that was scooting forward a bit (i posted about this earlier in this thread, and showed pictures). i'd rather have a little bit of smoke puffing out of my door every once in a while, than an unstable arch/dome.

maybe it will help when i stack the next section of chimney pipe on.
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