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plootsnot 09-25-2009 12:12 AM

Oven build in Holland
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Hi all nice forum here, been silently observing for a while and pulling out ideas whenever I get stuck. Started my oven in March and I'm slowly seeing it come together.

I will post more build photos later but wanted any extra thoughts before I move further, can anyone tell me if using a single colum of vertical brick as the inner "door jam- arch" (see pictures) will be stong/big enough to support the inner arch?



rbirchell 09-26-2009 04:55 PM

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I did mine like this.

I know others have done it differently. Not sure which is better.

I had a friend that lived in Holland prior to moving to Jakarta. He lived outside Amsterdam. We traveled all over your country chasing Walleye (Snookbaars). Great times. I miss it. Upper Holland reminds me of parts of Wisconsin. The weather is a bit milder though. Wisconsin in the fall, I'd say. He thought I was funny when I asked him about "ice fishing".

plootsnot 09-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Thanks for the tip Birchell, I ended up using a whole brick anyways which I turned 90 degrees from the original photos. It works well. Are you currently building or is your oven finished? Will have to look for more of your posts.

Ive only lived in Holland since 95 but in that time have never seen or heard of anybody ice fishing. Must be the global warming, or maybe too many wood fired ovens!

rbirchell 09-27-2009 07:51 PM

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That was the amusing part, to me and my friend. I assumed that there was ice fishing in Holland when I asked. The look he gave me was the best part. It just doesn't get cold enough for long enough to establish ice like we get here. So, no ice fishing there; never has been. Maybe in northern Germany though.

Anyway, I just finished my oven structurally and lit the first fire today. I did a few days of low temp propane drying (300-350 degrees) that really did a lot to dry it out. Today, we spent most of the time at 400 with a spike to 450 now and then. I'll do another short burn tomorrow before work.

Looking good on your build. Are you doing a low dome? It looks like it from what I can tell. But, looks can be deceiving.


dmun 09-28-2009 04:32 AM

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Clearly there was ice enough in the 17th century: can't vouch for fishing though.

rbirchell 09-28-2009 06:15 AM

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According to friend, they get just enough ice to make launching the boats interesting. Then they bust it up as they travel. The edges freeze but rarely the center. The lakes are more like widened rivers than what we call lakes here.

The 3 times I've fished there, in January and March. No ice. Brutal cold wind though.

But, I agree. "Never" was a bold statement on my part. Although, way back when, the whole country was essentially a flooded bog. Until they had their slaves dig the canals and build the sea wall. Later on, the fresh water fish from the Rhine, and other rivers, expanded in to the canals. The widened canals (or lakes) are major thoroughfares for cargo boats. They are like our Interstate Highways with Semi traffic. Interesting history there. Love the architecture too.

In fact, The first time I traveled there. I convinced my friend to take me in to Amsterdam for some sight seeing and such. As we wandered the streets, he found it very amusing as I walked past numerous half naked women in the windows of the red light district. I never even noticed; as I was fascinated by the buildings. I had to ask what was so funny.....

plootsnot 10-05-2009 12:53 AM

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Fascinated by the buildings or completely off your head from the delicious coffee available here? :) Sounds like you need to pay better attention next time Birchell!

Anyway back to the oven story my dome is done, going to wait a week before starting the cure period. Hope to be cooking soon here are some recent pictures.

plootsnot 10-05-2009 01:05 AM

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more photos

plootsnot 10-05-2009 01:07 AM

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and more photos

plootsnot 10-05-2009 01:34 AM

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Quantities used so far for dome and isulating hearth:

-new fire bricks whole (floor and arch) 80
-recycled fire bicks halfs (dome) 240
-3,5x 25 kilo bags of Parex/Lanko refractory mortel 156
-floor was set using fire clay and sand mix 50/50 with a little water
- 2x 100 liter bags medium vermculiet 6/1 with portland
-lots of sweat and exhausted energy

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