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Old 08-13-2012, 05:27 PM
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So far, all my pictures have shown the far end of the patio. The close end buts up against the house. At this end is where I put the bar and the grilling island. This project started when I ran a gas line out to the patio for my new gas grill. I then thought why not run a line out to the fire pit...and from there the ideas just kept comin....

Why Gas instead of wood you are probably asking? Well...we had a firepit for years in the patio (as seen in prior pics). When I built that firepit I imagined sitting on the patio around the fire with my wife relaxing. It never worked because she has asthma and wood fires trigger it. So that is why I am thinking gas. Of course, the WFO will be wood burning but I am hoping the chimney will direct the smoke up and away so she will be okay. Also, her Asthma seems to be getting better.

Anyway...here are two pics...one of the bar and one of the grilling island. I did the granite work myself...it is not perfect but the price was right and I enjoyed doing it....they were made from reminants...got a good deal on them. I sunk the side burner into the granite on left side of the grill...just had to run a longer gas line...also added accent lights to both...the FP/WFO will have the same lights and same granite accent pieces....
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:57 PM
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A few words about the combination of FP and WFO... I really like to idea of having both. I really did not want to take up the room it would take to have them side by side. So, here are my thoughts on it.

First, as I explained earlier I may have no choice but to go with gas due to my wife's Asthma. But assuming for a minute the health issue is not a problem. My plan is to build the firebox for the fireplace so that there is what I would call a "smoke chamber" that will hopefully collect the smoke. This chamber would be a box that extends up the top of the firebox. This box will be about 8 inches tall, 35 inches wide and about 16 inches deep. At the top of the box will be two, 5' round clay flues (one on each side). The two flues will protrude up through the hearth floor (on each side of the WFO entry and vent landing) and at some point come together to form one flue going up to the top of the chimney (all this flue activity will be hidden as this will be an enclosed house style oven). A separate flue will be used for the WFO.

If this entire plan fails and the fireplace will not draw the way it needs to I will just connect gas logs to the fireplace and use them...there will be plenty of ventilation for that...even if that fails I can always use ventless gas logs.

I prefer the have the option of using either gas or wood in the fireplace. We will see how this will work as I plan to have a "smoke test" within a couple of weeks once I get the smoke box built. I reiterate...the WFO will obviously be wood burning only...
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:41 PM
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Looks great so far!

Of course I know where Macomb Twp. is.... I grew up there!

Your photos look like familiar neighborhood, which is why I asked.

Looking forward to your build.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:36 PM
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Okay....made some progress over the past few weeks...also took a long weekend off from the project to take the family to Mackinaw Island. Anyway, In previous posts I described the smoke chamber I was building to catch the fireplace smoke and direct it out through the two chimneys at the top of the firebox. I finally got that built and lined with firebrick. Also attached the two clay flues which will eventually join together to form one chimney out the top. You can also see my helper Max....

The second picture is a view of my smoke chamber cladded with firebrick. The two openings are the two clay flues. This picture was is a look from inside the firebox from the firebox floor looking straight up. I plan to do the rest of the firebox in a harringbone pattern but up here where nobody will every see it I laid the brick straight....luckily I thought to do this from the top before I closed it up...much easier that way.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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My design is a bit different than most. For one thing the structure was designed to be built into my patio. The patio is about 18" high where the Fireplace/WFO will be. Therefore, the back of the structure is quite tall. This provided me with an idea. I decided to frame a doorway in the back and have a "walk in" wood storage area. The typical wood storage area in front is not available because I am using it for the firebox. I plan to make a door and also store my tools (rakes, brushes, peels and the like). Will probably put some shelving in or a rack at a minimum. Anyone see issues with this plan that I may not have thought of? What types of things besides those I listed about should I plan to make room for in this space?
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:47 PM
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Has anyone ever seen one of these? I was cleaning out my Dad's garage this spring and came across this. The person who had the house before him left it....over twenty years ago. My Dad thought it was a rock tumbler and the guy was really into rock polishing. I knew what is was when I saw it and thougth I would see if the motor still worked....sure enough it works great. I have been using it a lot. Too small for mixing for a pad but great for mortor, and filling the block cavities. What a neat little mixer....does about a 60 pound bag at a time....
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:01 PM
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On Saturday I got the base prepped for pouring the hearth. Some things of note: You will see the two flues coming through the hearth for the fireplace chimney. You will also see a PVC pipe coming throught the hearth. This is intended to be a passage way for low voltage lighting wires as I have run them to the base for accent lighting. I made this passage a little larger so that it could also be used for any other items I may think of during the process. Remember that I will have access to the back of the lower base through my walk in storage area. I have also run a gas line to this structure so I could do some gas lighting or something if I choose....you never know. Finally, you will notice two angle irons protruding out the front of the hearth. This will serve as mounts for a "floating" fireplace mantel which will me made of granite.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:23 PM
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Picked up the cement mixer and ready to go to work. I had some blocks to fill along with pouring the 4 inch pad. According to the bag it would take 30 60 Pounders. I had 8 left over from before so I figured I would be good with 30. I was wrong. I used the extra 8 plus I had to go out and get an extra 10....mid pour... I poured from the mixer into 5 gallon buckets and hoisted them up onto the hearth. What a great workout! I didn't have any help so the cement started to fire before I was ready....that along with the delay of having to get extra bags made it a bit tricky. The finish was not perfect but it was level and flat....I guess that is all that matters.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:29 PM
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Got back into my project over the holiday weekend. Got my Insulation down, the oven floor laid, my arch form build and in place, My IT built and positioned and the first course set. I feel like it was a productive weekend and it is starting to look like something.

Question.... Since I set the insulation board I have been covering it for fear that moisture would damage the insulation. True?
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:38 PM
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Today I finished the first course and completed the arch.

Question: As I move to the second course I have a decision to make if I am going to try and cut each brick to get a "Les-Like" tight fit or if I just go with simply using half bricks and lots of mortar. I only have a 10" wet saw. I know this has been bandered about on this board but I get the feeling most just use half bricks and it will be okay from a structural perspective. Anyone have any advice for me? BTW....it is September now and I live in Michigan....so I am really trying to get this project wrapped up by Halloween......but I have invested a significant amount of $ and time to this and I don't want to skimp either. If it really makes a difference I would rather tarp it up for the winter if I don't finish it and complete it in the spring.....thoughts?
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