#11  
Old 06-21-2011, 02:16 AM
brickie in oz's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Whittlesea
Posts: 3,455
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

No one in the trade covers it for a week, yet they have no problems.
__________________
The English language was invented by people who couldnt spell.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-21-2011, 02:20 AM
david s's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Townsville, Nth Queensland,Australia
Posts: 4,516
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

In the trade of cement rendering of houses this may be true, it is impractical to do so, it's very difficult to wrap a whole house. Render should not be applied in full sun or on windy days, this is another one that the builders ignore. In the trade of oven building or ferrocement it is mandatory if you want the end product to turn out with sufficient strength.

Last edited by david s; 11-06-2012 at 10:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-06-2012, 01:31 AM
brung99's Avatar
Laborer
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 80
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

Hi David,

What are youre thoughts of adding a bonding agent like bondcrete/cemcrete to the render mix ?
__________________
Regards,

Bruno


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-06-2012, 01:55 AM
david s's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Townsville, Nth Queensland,Australia
Posts: 4,516
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

Quote:
Originally Posted by brung99 View Post
Hi David,

What are youre thoughts of adding a bonding agent like bondcrete/cemcrete to the render mix ?
Yes, you could try that in an effort to make the render waterproof. Personally I prefer to make sure the thing is 100% dry by doing about 10 cooking firings and then waterproof the surface. You don't want to lock moisture in the oven when it is still moist.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-06-2012, 02:41 AM
brung99's Avatar
Laborer
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 80
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

Thanks for your quick reply David. I'm rendering my dome tomorrow and am hoping I mix it correctly and it doesnt end up cracking on me, I thought the bondcrete would make it stronger and hold together better. I have some reinforcement fibres so I might go down that path instead.
__________________
Regards,

Bruno


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-06-2012, 11:09 AM
brickie in oz's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Whittlesea
Posts: 3,455
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

Quote:
Originally Posted by brung99 View Post
Thanks for your quick reply David. I'm rendering my dome tomorrow and am hoping I mix it correctly and it doesnt end up cracking on me, I thought the bondcrete would make it stronger and hold together better. I have some reinforcement fibres so I might go down that path instead.
Render only cracks if you use the wrong sand, ie, sand with too much clay in it.
You have to used washed sand with no clay in it.
__________________
The English language was invented by people who couldnt spell.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-06-2012, 02:46 PM
Peasant
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: cairns
Posts: 25
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

So... as per the original question, how do you secure the chicken wire to the dome to hold its shape?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-06-2012, 10:42 PM
david s's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Townsville, Nth Queensland,Australia
Posts: 4,516
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

I make some wire ties which I embed in the mortar covering the bricks. They can poke right through the blanket. That's the way I do it anyway, probably too late for you. You could try wrapping wires all round the dome, then snipping the wires off where they go across the front arch after the render has set.

Last edited by david s; 11-06-2012 at 10:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-07-2012, 01:45 AM
brung99's Avatar
Laborer
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 80
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

Hi David,

FYI, I finished my rendering today and all went well. Thanks again for your advice.
__________________
Regards,

Bruno


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-10-2012, 01:21 PM
brung99's Avatar
Laborer
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 80
Default Re: Final Finish - Stucco and Chicken Wire

I rendered my oven a few days ago so its still in the curing/hardening phase.

All went well wit the render mix, application and finishing off.

If I wanted to lay another coat over the top of this first layer (in order to change the shape of the dome - just for the final look), would it be ok to simply mix up another batch and repeat the process just like the first time?.

I have reinforcement fibres so I'm not worried about using chicken wire. The minimum thickness I will add would be at least an inch in some spots and alot more in others.

Does anyone have experience/advice they could share with me about doing this?
__________________
Regards,

Bruno


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Paper on the chicken wire for stucco igloo finish? cvcrash Pompeii Oven Construction 2 06-05-2011 08:59 PM
how to a attach stucco Matt916 Pompeii Oven Construction 13 06-09-2010 05:37 PM
Almost Ready to Stucco -FB board question stellawood Modular Refractory Oven Installation 2 10-10-2008 01:05 PM
Stucco help PizzaJNKY Design Styles, Chimneys and Finish 6 05-30-2008 01:52 AM
stucco advice mieno Getting Started 23 03-20-2008 06:59 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
2006/10 Forno Bravo, LLC