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Old 05-04-2007, 07:54 PM
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I didn't use any buttressing on the side of my opening: I plan to pour in some vermiculite concrete, but I don't think that's too structural.
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:17 PM
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Yet another great idea I wish I had seen a month ago - cutting the bricks at a 45 degree to promote draw up the chimney. Although mine seems to draw fine, I do have a bit of smoke coming out the entry on start up.
As we keep saying, GREAT planning and execution.

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Old 05-05-2007, 06:49 AM
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Thanks RT!

I either stole that from Dave during his Rumford build or saw it on the rumford site he mentioned. I spent way too much time researching and reading about this than actually doing it!!!!!

The arch went pretty smootly - not as precise as I wanted - somehow reassembly made some differences. It looked great dry fitted.....

With all the smoke on the opening worries that I have - I wanted to do everything I could to have a smooth draw. I'll put a matching bevel on the other side as well.

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Old 05-15-2007, 07:09 PM
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Haven't worked on the oven in a while. Had a business trip to Hong Kong that interrupted things....

While travelling - Hendo happened to be in the same area. He went out of his way (ditched his family and got out of some shopping....) and met me for a beer at my hotel. He is a smart and funny guy. More of that later.

I can tell I'm anxious to get this over. I'm cutting corners (litterally) and not taking the time I used to take to get things done. As a result, my chimney opening looks a bit toothy. I'm happy with the taper on the bricks but could have spent a bit more time truing up the opening. My wife says "who's going to see that?" - I know it will be there..... bygones

So on to the outer arch; terra cotta vent; and chimeny. All went very well. Really nice to be done with the firebrick part of this exercise. I had to lay a few scraps of firebrick on the arch to fill in some holes left by the trapezoid shape of the vent arch. It freaked me out to have to trim the mortared together halves of the vent with the grinder but they held together just fine.

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default First fire with Chimney

Had to see if the chimney would draw.

The fire looks much bigger than it is - I think the darkness makes the flame look bigger....

Seems to draw pretty well - not much smoke out the front at all. I am putting a decorative brick arch on the face that will be about an inch lower than the vent arch - that should take care of most of the left over smoke. Or so I claim....

Of course, making the decorative arch an inch lower than the vent may give me a challenge with the oven door, but I guess I'll have some time to think that one out.

For now, I smell a little smoky and all is good.

Christo

P.S. If the oven looks tall, it is - I still have to rent a bobcat and level out the area for a paito and put down about 6 inches of gravel and sand.... That should bring it up to tennis racquet height...
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:48 PM
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It's looking good. One of the problems with the geodesic design is that there is no really good transition from the dome to the entry. You at least left enough room in front of the oven for a proper flue arch instead of building it partially on top of the dome like I did.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:45 AM
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It's time to post again - been working a lot and making a small drying fires as time permits.

Took time today to clean up the worksite and start installing metal stud enclosure for the oven. Making the oven enclosure a pentagon shape did not help.... I was working in quicksand - everytime I trued up one wall adding hte next would take it all out of plumb.

I had some rebar wire left over and put x's of wire to stabilize and plumb each wall as I built it from there on out. Worked very nice. I plan to hold up the concrete backer board, trace the shape, cut it out, remove the wire and install. One surface at a time.

Of course - I could not find my lever action cutters - So I'm using some old huge tin snips from my tool collection - I'm sure I'll find my avaition snips when I'm done with the metal frame.

Planning on putting in some niches where the dome and front arch intersect. There looks like plenty of room there without impacting insulation thickness.

Gotta go buy 8 more studs for the roof!!

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Old 05-20-2007, 01:18 PM
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Chris and Hendo,

Welcome back. How did your trips go? You have to admit that a Yank and an Aussie meeting in Hong Kong after an introduction on a brick oven group is pretty interesting.

Chris, I can't tell from the photos, but is your roof angle OK to shed water?

Otherwise, if you slowly accelerate your fires, you will be roasting chicken and grilling bistecca Fiorentina within days -- and reaching pizza heat right behind that. You definitely can finish your oven and cure it at the same time.

Enjoy, and welcome back.
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:32 PM
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Thanks - It's good to be back - I'll post pics and our meeting in the travel section later tonight.

Roof is nearly flat. 3 inches slope the lenght - approx 5 feet or 3 degrees. We're not in snow country (we had an inch 3 years ago...) so I think it will be fine.

Intend to use sheet copper or rubber or combination to cover.

I have seen a few small cracks between the hexes and pents during the drying fires. They are very small on the outer shell and I see no evidence on the inside. Last night was my biggest fire so far. Two logs and after they got going I separated them to make a nice long low burning fire. I've now had about 10 hours of something burning low in the oven. It is a nice and shiny black inside.....
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:39 PM
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I had a fire going while I was building the metal stud enclosure. Not one of my brightest moments - it was already warm that day!

A friend sent me some prototype insulation that is very good but did not meet the weight requirments of the application. I was able to wrap the entire oven around the base, and make some vertical cuts to allow overlap. I then put two layers over the top.

I had enough left over to piece together a second layer around the sides and a third layer on the top. There were a few places were the metal studs close to the metal studs (due to oven growing from 34 inches to 39 inches dia). I put a piece of scrap isoboard inbetween the ceramic insulation and the stud in those places.

Now time to put on the concrete backer board and start the stucco!!!

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