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K79 02-22-2013 01:01 PM

Block Stand Confusion?
 
Ok guys so I'm still on the fence about building a 36" or a 42" oven. I started designing my block stand for a 36" just to see what it looks like and used FB's dimensions for the stand. Well I'm having an issue using standard 16"x8"x8" blocks and coming up with their dimensions? I've attached a photo of my drawing. I know you can cut the blocks but in most of the video's I've seen, I didn't notice people cutting them. Is it ok to make it larger so I don't have to cut any blocks?


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Cheesesteak 02-22-2013 01:15 PM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Yes - it is perfectly fine to make it bigger. In looking at your drawing - how will you enclose your oven? Is it an igloo? Or will it have an enclosure? I just don't see that accounted for in your drawing.

Make the base / stand whatever your comfortable with. I will tell you that I put a block wall midway under the base and have an entry from the front and the back. In my opinion (shared by some) - the standard base is sufficiently deep that you will rarely, if ever, reach all the way to the back. By splitting the storage in two and having access from front and back - I find it more useable.

Anyway - just one man's opinion . . .

brickie in oz 02-22-2013 01:29 PM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Im sure they sell halves in the US, most of the masonry we use here originated from there. :)

stonecutter 02-22-2013 02:45 PM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Yep, you can get 4"x8"x16" hollow core or solids almost anywhere...even big box stores have them.

Tscarborough 02-22-2013 04:40 PM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
And also 8x8x8 halves. For something as simple as an oven stand, just design it on 8" modules, rounding up from what you think you need. It will work with standard CMU and modular brick

Aegis 02-23-2013 07:24 AM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
All great advice, I second the split storage under the hearth. I would have even liked it open on three sides. Front and the on each rear side, I am tall and could reach across, but my back reminds me of my age! If you are having an enclosure, then bigger is better so you can add more insulation. Read my post on the other thread for which size oven. Standard block is not the full measurements - I am obviously NOT a mason and didn't realize that the mortar joint makes up the difference in size. But if you dry stack like I did, then the dimensions will be a little short by the lack of mortar joints. (both horizontal and vertical) Go to a supply place and measure a "standard" block to be sure, and then sketch up a plan with those dimensions if you are dry stacking. Also note that if you are facing the block with brick they will not line up on a full course (those missing mortar joints add up) . http://www.atochome.com/Brick_Oven/IMG_27.jpg
Looks like the blocks are hanging in mid air. I have two lintels under them in the middle of the blocks.
I also do not have the divider set yet. http://www.atochome.com/Brick_Oven/IMG_29.jpg
This shows the divider. http://www.atochome.com/Brick_Oven/b... 4-9-26-10.jpg
Good Luck
John (guy without any masonry skills):o

stonecutter 02-23-2013 08:00 AM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
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I used 4"x8"x16" (solids) for a similar reason. I needed more room for my stone veneer than the standard block allowed. So I used the smaller dimension block and everything worked out fine.

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Aegis 02-23-2013 08:59 AM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stonecutter (Post 146239)
I used 4"x8"x16" (solids) for a similar reason. I needed more room for my stone veneer than the standard block allowed. So I used the smaller dimension block and everything worked out fine.

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Beautiful Oven! WOW what stone work!!!!!! That is a work of art, congrats and enjoy!

stonecutter 02-23-2013 09:06 AM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegis (Post 146241)
Beautiful Oven! WOW what stone work!!!!!! That is a work of art, congrats and enjoy!

Thanks, but this was my first oven for a customer ( my best one ) 8 years ago...though I have gotten to enjoy it on occasion.

K79 02-26-2013 05:45 AM

Re: Block Stand Confusion?
 
Ok, a lot of great advice and some things I didn't even think of !! Thanks.


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