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Old 02-04-2014, 09:15 AM
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I built mine without an ash dump but sometimes I wish I had one. As many have said, "it is no big deal to rake them up and shovel them into a steel bucket" - which is what I do. However there are a few times when that has been a bit of a hassle and I wish I could just sweep them into a hole and be done with it. I haven't finished my countertops yet, so I'm still contemplating something on mine.

I have even designed (on paper) a vacuum system that would be stored under the hearth to suck the ashes out of the back - or reversed to blow onto the fire if I was having any difficulty with the fire. That really hasn't been an issue and I'm sure that I won't bother with that.

Good luck with your dump - if you have not found them already, there are few cool designs out there on the forum already. Post some pictures of your progress.

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Old 02-04-2014, 12:23 PM
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If I had it to do again, I'd build an ash drop into my oven. The metal dust pan/oven rake combo does a fine job, but it's hot, uncomfortable and messy if you're trying to clean out a very hot oven in order to make bread in a few hours.

The challenge, I think, is that the ash-drop needs to be relatively big (otherwise you've traded fighting with the dust-pan to fighting with a tiny hole), and you have to be able to cover it. My notion, for my hypothetical second oven, would be to omit a the whole row of firebricks from the entry area (so, outside the door), and instead have a sheet of stainless steel that covers the gap, with the bricks front and back notched to allow the sheet to sit flush, and a hole or something to allow you to pick it up.
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Old 02-04-2014, 01:42 PM
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If I had it to do again, I'd build an ash drop into my oven. The metal dust pan/oven rake combo does a fine job, but it's hot, uncomfortable and messy if you're trying to clean out a very hot oven in order to make bread in a few hours.

The challenge, I think, is that the ash-drop needs to be relatively big (otherwise you've traded fighting with the dust-pan to fighting with a tiny hole), and you have to be able to cover it. My notion, for my hypothetical second oven, would be to omit a the whole row of firebricks from the entry area (so, outside the door), and instead have a sheet of stainless steel that covers the gap, with the bricks front and back notched to allow the sheet to sit flush, and a hole or something to allow you to pick it up.
That's pretty much what I am going to do. Other than the simple fact that I just plain like the idea. I also hopefully will be using my WFO and surrounding areas as a model for folks to see, if and when I decide to build them for others. It will be nice to have one w/a ash dump to show to folks. I do some masonry work for a living and hope to learn enough from building mine, in addition to the wealth of info here, to be able to build a few more. I already have put the WFO bug into a few ears and now people are waiting to see mine, etc. So, I guess if the weather gives me a few breaks here and there, I'll keep plugging away at it. I know I am infected w/the WFO Bug, since I am starting to lay awake at night w/my wheels spininn' about the project. Then, wake up thinking about it. Got that Bug bad, I do.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:05 PM
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I came across a WFO plan just the other day that incorporates a slot to scrape ashes, etc. into. It is located outside of the oven, behind where the door is located, so I don't think it would interfere w/either fresh air intake or heat loss. It also suggests making a cover for it when not in use. The cleanout for the ashes is actually on the side of the foundation, which I thought was a plus. If you want info, I could email you what info I have. I think it's a neat idea, but certainly not a necessity, rather a feature of convenience for the user. I plan to use it when I start my WFO soon.
Getting ready to build , could you email me info as welll ?
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:11 PM
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Getting really excited, ready to build oven love the idea of a ash dump. can you give me more info
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:04 PM
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I'm far from an expert, but will gladly share some photos of a foundation set up for an ash dump. I just thought it was a clever design and plan on using it when I get started. I won't post the photos here, but will be glad to email a photo, if you like. Other than that, you may want to do a search on here to see what some experienced builders have done w/ash dumps, etc. I'm just a newbie, here soaking up some knowledge.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:10 AM
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I built an oven ash dump slot just outside the reveal/landing area (where my fire door sits). The slot drops into a metal bin that's got a tight fitting cover. I clean out my oven before baking bread by pulling the bin cover back and then pulling coals & ash into the slot. Everything drops into the bin, I push the cover back on and let the coals smother and die -- out of my way. I bake 15 - 30 loaves on Fridays and normally need to dump the bin every other month if I'm burning hardwoods (minimum ash). I've been using the system since 2009 and it's worked like a charm (incidentally, I give most of the bread to my friends & neighbors).

Photos show the slot in the foundation slab, the slot just in front of the reveal, the initial "propped up" ash bin, finished ash bin mounted on rails for pull-out, and the final view of the working oven. I have two doors, the heavy stainless steel one that's in place in pics 3 & 4 and a much lighter weight working door (the working door is visible on the left side of the oven in pics 3 & 5).

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Old 02-15-2014, 11:31 AM
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@Mike I have reviewed your thread before but did not recognize what an efficient use of space you created under your oven - roll away carts and all. Probably because I had not yet realized what an utter waste of space I had designed with the 75 cuft "box" under my oven. Everyone thinking about building an oven (corner install, indoors or otherwise) should look at your thread - Awesome! Biggest mistake I made was not reading through the forum before I started my build - I downloaded the plans and went from there - not thinking there was that much to it and so many design options to consider. Yours should be required reading for future builders. Thanks again for sharing.

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Old 02-15-2014, 11:47 AM
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@Mike I have reviewed your thread before but did not recognize what an efficient use of space you created under your oven - roll away carts and all. Probably because I had not yet realized what an utter waste of space I had designed with the 75 cuft "box" under my oven. Everyone thinking about building an oven (corner install, indoors or otherwise) should look at your thread - Awesome! Biggest mistake I made was not reading through the forum before I started my build - I downloaded the plans and went from there - not thinking there was that much to it and so many design options to consider. Yours should be required reading for future builders. Thanks again for sharing.

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I agree. Very nice looking job.
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