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Old 02-22-2013, 07:53 AM
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Kurt,


Gulf is corrected about making sure that you are on the same page with the sales clerk. There are different grade of insulations level and the main thing you want to look at is the heat resistent level. FB recommended to use 2300 F degree heat resistent insulation for WFO. Most of these clerks have no clue and you may have to contact the manufactor just to get the correct information. For example, none of the sales clerks at Masonary Product in New Orleans did not know that Alsey's firebrick which they stocked, is medium duty firebrick.

Got a wet saw yet?
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:12 AM
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Kurt,
When you are finisned with your build, could you post a couple of pictures?
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:24 PM
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Well, I passed on the insulating fire brick. The guy that was selling them had them stored out in the weather. They were wet with mold on the ones most exposed. I stopped by the industrial insulating place and purchased a roll of ceramic blanket for $50 and a box of seven 12"x36"x2" Sproule WR-1200 perlite insulation board for less than $70 as they were out of calsil. Will the rated 1200 degree operating temp be a problem for the floor? Here is a link to the specs: http://www.iig-llc.com/pdfs/IIG-200-Sproule-WR-1200.pdf

I'll post pictures when I actually start building. All I have now is a hole dug in the ground that has been filled with water for three weeks. It rained again today.

Tu, I haven't bought a wet saw yet, but I have been checking Craigslist daily. I do have an abrasive cut off saw I can use if I want to deal with dust.

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Old 02-22-2013, 06:49 PM
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Hi Kurt,

You'll need 3 rolls of ceramic blankets and I would pass on the perlite board.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:26 PM
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Kurt,

According to the data that you attach, it seems like Sproule WR-1200 board will lose heat at a faster rate than you would with FB board because Sproule WR-1200 has a higher % of conductive rate.

So, it all depends on how long you want to retain the heat from one fire.

http://www.fornobravo.com/PDF/FB_board.pdf

I got my insulation from this place in Houston, TX and their insulations blankets and board has the same spec. as the ones from FB's. http://www.ktrefractories.com/Cerami...FiberBoard.htm
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:10 AM
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My brother called me last night saying he could help me pour the foundation in the morning before it rains tomorrow. Since I didn't have the rebar cut or all of the concrete on hand, I had to hustle last night to cut the rebar and make two runs to Home Depot for bags of concrete. I got up at 5:30 am to get things started before he got here at 6. We managed to pour 46 80 lbs bags of Quikrete by 8:15. I'm pleased because I thought it would take all morning.





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Old 03-09-2013, 09:47 AM
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Great job Kurt,
It's good to get a little help the pours . Just a little advice on any future pours, though. If you will cut your stakes, even with or below the top of the form before you pour, it will make leveling and screeding easier.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:20 PM
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I didn't see a mixer in the background. I assume you mixed all that the old fashioned way...in a wheel barrow. Power to you. That's alot of work. Good thing you have a brother to count on...I don't know if you can pay for that kind of labor anymore.

When it comes time for your hearth pour, you'll want to make sure to raise the rebar off of the bottom by an inch or so. Concrete is much stronger under compression so you want your steel reinforcement just below the center of your slab.

Good Luck and hand your brother a beer.

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Old 03-10-2013, 10:33 AM
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Thanks. Yep, we mixed the concrete 2 bags at a time in a wheelbarrow. I was waiting for the rebar comment. The rebar is about 2.5" off the ground. I had not placed it on a few broken bricks when I took the photo. I'm not even sure if they were wired together at that point. My brother's labor was payback for me installing aluminum floors in his boat last weekend. That actually took twice as long. Glad we poured yesterday as it's raining now.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:43 PM
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I was able to get more work done today and yesterday. The base is mostly finished minus adding rebar and filling the blocks with concrete. The bricks will help support the blocks below the landing. I'll add steel angle also. That was my first effort brick laying. I think it came out ok. The variations in the salvaged bricks made it interesting keeping the heights consistent.

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