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Old 07-21-2014, 09:30 AM
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If it were me, I would stagger the joints on the entry vault.

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Old 07-21-2014, 09:32 AM
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im sorry.. what do you mean?
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Old 07-21-2014, 12:22 PM
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Cut three bricks for the second course and all alternating courses so joints do not line up.

If it were me, I would move the inner row of entryway bricks to the outside of the entryway to change the line of thrust and act as a buttress.
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Old 07-21-2014, 01:58 PM
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This is too complex english for me, im sorry, its not my mother tongue.
Would you please draw, perhaps? Thank you
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:10 PM
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This is too complex english for me, im sorry, its not my mother tongue.
Would you please draw, perhaps? Thank you
Many of the UK, Aussie, and Northern US members of the forum would say that English is not my native tongue . But, here we go.

42" in Hungary by Slovak guy ;)-entry.jpg

Arrow #1 in the picture is pointing to what I meant by staggering the bond.

Arrow #2 in the picture is pointing to the bricks that GianniFocaccia is referring to. I think that those are just placed there temporarily to hold up your vault form. Correct me if I am wrong. But, a segmental arch will need some buttressing. That is what is what GianniFocaccia meant by moving them to the outside.

But, now after looking a little closer. I don't see where you are building what we call an inner arch . That is usually built with the dome and the entry arch is built separately. By doing so you will create a reveal to help seal your insulated door. Maybe, a pic of the inside of your entry will help.
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Old 07-22-2014, 01:59 AM
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Damn, yes.. i was staggering all the bonds, and when i saw my own picture i sweated. Damn damn.. i need to remove those two brick and rework it somehow before it is too late.

Arrow two: those are temporary brick, holding valt in place.

Also understood about inner arch, will try to figure out how to build it as a next step. Something like this, right?



Please explain me what GianniFocaccia said
"If it were me, I would move the inner row of entryway bricks to the outside of the entryway to change the line of thrust and act as a buttress."

What is buttressing in general
"But, a segmental arch will need some buttressing."

maybe a picture?

Thank you a lot
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Old 07-22-2014, 02:43 AM
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understand now.. just realized the force vectors for rounded enry and 'segmented'
So i need to reinforse the side, because those can fall to the sides, right?
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Old 07-22-2014, 06:37 AM
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Exactly what Gulf and GF are talking about. Your build is progressing nicely. English is my "mother" tongue be I can't even understand it some times
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:17 AM
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As Russell said, your oven is coming along quite nicely. You are not too far along to change your entryway design to a hemispherical one, especially if you construct your oven arch that way (highly recommended).

Here's a pic of what the forms would look like.

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Old 07-24-2014, 03:06 AM
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Will do inner arch first, and will probably disassemble the arch

Also realized i have slightly deeper entrance than usual, is it ok?
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