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Old 02-25-2012, 03:42 AM
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I called a local towing company to see if they'd be interested in lifting it with their cherry picker. No dice.

Good luck. Actually, some long 2 x 4's, at least 6 good strong friends, and some good luck.

And some decent public liability insurance.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:37 PM
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If you get it raised up, and can get the straps under it, when you place it in the final frame, set it on ice blocks. Pull out the straps and let the ice melt and it will lower into place.

I have never seen it done with an oven, but I have seen it done with other, heavier items that needed to nest into a space, with no room to remove the straps if set all the way in.

Just a thought...
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:49 PM
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Hi Whodatoven, how did you end up setting up the P70?
Fornographer,

Sorry I just found this question of your. I installed the P70 about 18 months ago. What I did was the followings:

I used an engine lift with two heavy duty straps (I forgot the name of it but they are rated >3000 lb)) which go underneath the oven. There was a problem we ran into. The lift has two legs which align like a "V". We were not able to position the top of the lift directly above the oven without the "V" legs running into the pallet on which the oven is sitting. As a result, I had to rent another pallet jack which lift the oven a few inches above ground. That allowed the lift to go directly above the oven.

So you need three things: engine lift, straps, and pallet jack. Quite a task, I know, but with those three you can get it done with two people rather quickly.

I just received a newletter saying that FB now sells a P70 with a stand and lighter in weight. I should make the installation easier.

Hope this helps.

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Old 02-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Placing a P70 on a stand

How did you put the straps underneath the P70 without prying it up with a crowbar and potentially damaging it?

Thank you for answering? How is the P70 now that you have had it for almost 2 years? Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Fornographer,

Sorry I just found this question of your. I installed the P70 about 18 months ago. What I did was the followings:

I used an engine lift with two heavy duty straps (I forgot the name of it but they are rated >3000 lb)) which go underneath the oven. There was a problem we ran into. The lift has two legs which align like a "V". We were not able to position the top of the lift directly above the oven without the "V" legs running into the pellet on which the oven is sitting. As a result, I had to rent another pellet lift which lift the oven a few inches above ground. That allowed the lift to go directly above the oven.

So you need three things: engine lift, straps, and pellet lift. Quite a task, I know, but with those three you can get it done with two people rather quickly.

I just received a newletter saying that FB now sells a P70 with a stand and lighter in weight. I should make the installation easier.

Hope this helps.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:46 PM
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i used wooden shim. In addition, between the oven and pallet, there is a thin layer of styrofoam which makes the insertion of shim easy. The new P70 now comes with a metal ring which should allow you to use a crowbar without damaging the oven.

One thing I learn about use of P70 is it is important to have a live fire reaching the dome top while you cook pizza. That will do several things for you: 1. it will induce the crust rim to pop, creating that wonderful air bubbles inside the crust and 2. that will prevent the oven floor temperature from plunging too much, and 3. that will actually prevent the bottom of pizza from charring. This requirement is the result of P70 having a relatively high dome.

We just had the most wonderful pizza this past weekend.

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Old 02-28-2012, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Placing a P70 on a stand

I'm close to ordering the 70 myself, I've decided I just don't want to deal with the hassle of a 'build', plus the 70 will fit nicely into my patio style.

I've had the same question about moving the unit, and was told they reduced the weight to 560 lbs and that three strong men should be able to move it. I've got to move it from the front of the house to the backyard, so it needs to be carry-able. Any advice anyone?
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:21 PM
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ronh,

The shipping company moved the oven to my backyard. However, the path to your backyard should be relatively unobstructive or the guy will not do it. Yes, there was only one person from the shipping company, the drive/mover. He used a pallet jack with help from two of us. The old P70 weights >700lb.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:04 AM
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Can't believe FB think 4 blokes can lift that kind of load safely with a couple of 4x2's
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Old 03-28-2012, 05:21 PM
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Well, thought I'd update this thread with my experience.

Got the new Primavera 70 sitting in my garage. Got 6 good sized men over for the move...figure with six of us, no problem, even though it has to move a good distance. Well, honestly, while we could lift it using 2x4's, actually moving it any distance was just out of the question. I wish I still had the email from the rep at forno who said 3 strong men could move it. No freaking way. So I'm now looking at plan b to move this beast!
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:14 PM
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Can I say "Told ya so!"

My best advice continues to be -

Back a pick up truck to the beast with tailgate down

Place the 2 x 4's underneath the beast (crow bar?) and lift on to the truck bed (difficult, but should be possible with 6+ guys and long 2 x 4's)

Back the truck up to within a couple inches of the stand/base

Like a Pharoah, lift the beast from the truck bed to the stand/base, and push it on. A crow bar will help is turing it to the proper orientation. Expect appreciable chips in the lower edges. They can be easily repaired.

Hope your buds are strong. And lift with your legs.
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