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Old 09-06-2012, 03:49 PM
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It should be OK since Dennis is planning on using splits - so the gaps won't be so pronounced - anyway it would be impossible to cut them
I thought the splits were facing splits?

No such thing as impossible.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:08 PM
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I am also going to put the same brick around the firewood storage. I think I can do a fake arch with the brick in front of the square entry that I have today. Any guidance on that?
Dennis,
I think that you could use "hardie board" or a simular brand, concrete fiber board material to fashion an arched form to attach your "fake" arch.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:44 PM
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Al - Facing splits, yes - that's right. I don't always know the right terms

I bought the bricks today. They are ebony "clinkers". I think they are going to look great. I calculated the wedge, and I need to cut them down to 1.4 inches at the bottom (from 2 3/8 at the top)

The bottom arch will be a bit tougher. I test placed the brick and realized I want to have the brick on both the face of the oven and the inside edge of the storage opening. Since the rest of the base will be ~1 1/4 inch thick stone veneer, I probably want facing splits there too, but I still want them to look like a full brick at the corner. So I think I'll need to cut L-shaped "corner" bricks to make it look right.

Gulf - I had been looking at the way you did your lower arch in this post http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/8/mi...tml#post137306 (Mississippi 44"), which was instructive. I guess I could screw a piece of hardieboard behind there to support it.
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So I think I'll need to cut L-shaped "corner" bricks to make it look right.
Good luck with that..... youll need it.
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Good luck with that..... youll need it.
Yeah... but I got the brick with the holes in it, which I think will make it easier. Still have the brick saw too...
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I was imagining you cutting 10mm thick facings.....
If you cut at the back of the holes you should be fine.
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Of course - my one dimensional mind at work again
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Dennis,
Just another idea about facing the wood storage with an arch. I puposesly left a reveal in mine for a wooden door. You could use a flattened arch and start just above the corners. The reveal under the middle of the arch would be flat, but that could be covered by a door if it bothers you. This would save some work and would not take away some accessibility to you storage as would furing down the inside corners
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:22 AM
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Update on the progress over the weekend, and consolidating a bunch of stuff I have posted on other peoples threads about countertops

I started laying the bricks for arch over my wood storage area. I don't have any pictures, because I found that building a brick column is apparently more difficult than it appears... I built one side twice, and the other once, and then tore it all down. It's very difficult to keep straight without some sort of guide! I set some string guides last night and got once side mostly done in a fashion that I can accept - but didn't take any pictures. Gulf, I liked your idea but decided that I wasn't going to do doors. Or at least build it so I had to put them in. The punch list is just seeming too long on this project!

I also built out plywood cabinet inside of my BBQ area for storage. That took me a day, but is not terribly exciting to look at, so again - I didn't take any photos. It does give me a decent amount of storage. It's about 15" wide x 36" deep (corner cabinet) by 24" tall. I have no idea what I will store in there - I just hope it doesn't become spider central! I built it out of exterior grade plywood and painted the inside and top surfaces. I figure since it is inside of the cabinet it won't see too much moisture. We'll see. I hope so since there will be no practical way to repair it once the countertops are on!

As for those counters...

I decided to go with concrete. I'm going to use quikcrete 5000, with a bit of portland added and plasticizer/water reducer. AFAIK this is the equivalent of commercial countertop mixes. I also bought some strengthening fibers and pigment to add to the mix from directcolor.com. The countertops will be charcoal colored. I'm using Alkaline free fiberglass mesh - 2 layers - in place of rebar. The combo of the mesh and fibers is supposed to minimize cracking. Again, we shall see. I'm going to rent a mixer from HD for the pour. Since I am adding so many ingredients I want the concrete really well mixed. I've also got about ten pounds of ~3/8" glass. Brown, white and clear mixture. there is a glass recycling place right down the street from me, bought it for a buck a pound.

I will be building the forms this week/weekend. I'm using melamine shelving from HD for those. Plan to use Pam/vegetable spray as a release agent.

Oh, and I also ordered supplies for grinding/polishing. I found a 7-pad set of wet polishing pads for $40 at amazon and I also ordered a router speed control that I can use on my grinder to turn it into a variable speed unit. That was only $16. I already have a diamond grinding cup.

Feeling like I have all my ducks in a row, but would love any feedback/advice. I'm going to try do a couple of small sample squares (maybe an arch keystone?) before I do the big pour.
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Just a note on the fiberglass mesh. Make sure that the web size is larger than the largest aggregate in the mix, otherwise it creates a fracture plane in the slab.
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