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Old 05-20-2013, 06:45 AM
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Any frost heaving "will not lift the entire pad" if the pad is below frost line.
the frost acts on the posts, which will pop out of the ground like squeezed pimples if they are not anchored!
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Unruffle your feathers,
I do not recommend wooden posts in the ground at all! Read the entire post, i said sonotube with a lower base! So what about this do you disagree with? I don't like pole structures and that is where your expertise might be. Better to let this NY person do his build however he wants to do it! My main point is " why the heck would any person in their right mind- build a masonry structure (of any type) on top of 4 treated posts? Can you in all sincerity- rationalize that is a correct way to do things?

If you get pissed off so easily, should try a different vocation! Building is all about "customer is always right!" not how many certificates you got on your walls! anyway..lots of bull headed guys in this business! See we have something in common!
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:13 AM
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I am speaking to a forum, not to anyone in particular except for the person from Rockland County.

If someone, who addressed me personally does not like what I say that is fine.
If he wants to take it up with FB, do your best!

If I am banned..so what! Is this another level of achievement? Being able to use a forum... should we all fall down and worship your licenses?

I am giving this Rockland County individual advice on what I have experienced in extreme cold weather climates. It is his choice to accept what is freely given or not!
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In construction in particular, the customer is not always right. They may know what they want, but that does not mean they know how to accomplish that end.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:17 AM
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I think what you fail to understand is. You dig your pad below the frost line, build your wooden base, adjust your base on top of the pads to the proper location. THEN fill the rest of the hole with concrete to within a few inches of ground level. So the frost CAN'T even get in any contact with the wooden post. So if you think frost will pop the post out of the concrete sleeve...I don't think so.

I hope that helps you understand.
So, the frost doesn't act against the concrete that you poured into the hole?
they are all stuck together! What don't you see?
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:29 AM
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In construction in particular, the customer is not always right. They may know what they want, but that does not mean they know how to accomplish that end.
The customer always being right - phrase refers to they ultimately hold the purse string. You can argue till you are blue in the face, the customer may threaten to take a case to court, or whatever. If you can satisfy your customer by doing quality work to their expectation. You will get "paid" and that is the KEY word in staying in business... Keep your customers happy, collect your money, build a good reputation--and reap the rewards of building nice things and using your imagination and skills! And part of doing a good job is "exceeding building requirements" in doing better that what is "minimally required" so that you do not get troubling call backs! The call backs are what kill you. A little 50cent job can cost thousands of dollars just to send in a crew to do some little stinky thing that you should have done right in the first place!
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