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Old 09-03-2010, 10:47 AM
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You can stop being envious. I looked and it is the 10" saw. I thought it was the 14" for some reason. On another note, I just back from ANH and picked ups some goods. Daniel is great to work with. I bought the 8lb 1" blanket and picked up a carton of INS 19 insolating boards. It's rated to 1900 degrees F. Do you guys think that should be enough? The 2300 was way more. Also picked up 2 bags of refractory mortor for 30 bucks a piece.
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Old 09-03-2010, 11:05 AM
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You'll be fine with the 1900F, remember more under the deck is better. I have 2" and felt for the addl cost that 2.5 would have been nice. As long as you're at 2" or better, you'll be fine.


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Old 09-03-2010, 02:59 PM
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hb,

I spoke at length this week with the ANH distribution manager Frank, who confirmed Gold Coast is really a service/repair outfit which really doesn't distribute or stock much in the way of refractory. They buy mostly Pryor-Giggey products and in fact buy from ANH when needed, but either way, have to mark up whatever they sell to make it worthwhile.

You bought the same board I did. It's easy to cut (use a respirator - its nasty stuff to breathe) with a jigsaw and you can make really precise cuts. Below is the plan I used to cut pieces to fit a 53.5" diameter.

Piece Board No Dimen

1 1 1 12 x 36 432
2 2 2 12 x 36 432
3 3 3 12 x 17 204
4 4 4 12 x 36 432
5 5 5 12 x 14.5 174
6 5 6 12 x 21 164
7 5 6a 12 x 8 48
8 6 7 12 x 36 432
9 6 7a 9.5 x 13.5 83
10 7 8 12 x 14.5 174
11 3 9 12 x 14.5 174
12 7? 10 7 x 7 24.5


area =pi*r2

2246.86=3.14x26.75sq'd

Thanks for the offer of the saw. I got a 10" too (HF10) and so far so good (knock on wood). BTW - I put my Insblock 19 on top of 3" of vermicrete and am glad I did since I've decided to try putting in a soapstone floor. Anything you can add to your floor insulation won't go wasted.

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Old 09-04-2010, 09:36 AM
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John,

What size oven are you making? I'm going for the 36" pompei oven. If you making the 36" then I'll probably go with your dimensions. On another note, I've been making pizza on my bbq with firebricks. Comes out pretty good. Not so good with the Tipo flour which is why I'm making the oven. I'm about to start boardering my stand for the hearth pour, I figure 4" of concrete with the insblock 19 should do just fine. Did you speak with Daniel at ANH? I worked with him yesterday and he's a real nice guy. Gave me the labor day special he so calls it. He said that califono bravo buys his refractory cement from his also. Also if you need some high gluten flour the store next door sell alot of it, Begato ( I think that's the name of it). Currently I'm using Kyrol Flour which works real good for the ny style pizza. I'm off to restaruant depot to pick up some stansilaus pizza sauce. I'll probably buy others also to test out. I'll give you an update with the sauces.
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Old 09-04-2010, 11:52 AM
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hb,

I built my oven stand for a 42" pompeii, but then I changed my mind thinking I'd fire up a 39" more often. The plans are for the original 42".

I bought a case of Caputo Tipo 00 flour from Chef's Warehouse in Industry and had good results with firebricks in the house oven. I changed the hydration from 65 to 60 since my oven only gets to about 550. The pizza came out delicious!

I bought my ANH stuff from the Manager Frank, but Daniel helped me load my Sairbond refractory mortar ($37) into my car. If you can install 3-4" of vermicrete or an additional 1" of Insblock you will have a better-performing oven for sure. A number of builders here put in what you have and wished they'd added more.

What is Califono Bravo? Would love to see a website.

Once my oven gets built I'm gonna experiment with all kinds of flours. Will definitely try out the Begato and Kyrol.

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Old 09-04-2010, 01:33 PM
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John,
The pesto shrimp pizza looks great, did you cook the shrimp ahead?

Chris
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:24 PM
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Thanks, Chris. Yes, they were just heated through in their shells in garlic, butter, a splash of dry sherry and salt. I'm thinking I would like to put some diced red onion on it next time.

John
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:34 PM
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Did you say Chef's warehouse. I just looked them up and I dont see them in California. When you said industry you meant City of industry, right. if so do you have an address and a phone number. Sure beats a drive to LA. If your closer to Fountain Valley you can go to restaurant depot to pick up kyrol but you need a business tax Id.

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Old 09-04-2010, 11:27 PM
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Sorry - The proper name is The Chef's Warehouse, and they are in the City of Industry, even though their website does not reveal this. Their address is:

16633 Gale Avenue
City of Industry, CA 91745
626-465-4200

My brother Richard and I visited them in the spring, attending their food expo and there had to be 50 vendors there with flour, oils, cheese, meat, seafood, rice, chocolate, pasta, you name it. The vendors all had samples and there was a fantastic buffet for all attendees. A foodie's virtual paradise!

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Old 10-21-2010, 01:01 PM
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hb,

I wanted to share something with you regarding the refractory mortar I bought from Harbison-Walker. I didn't find out until after I bought it that it is not water-soluable. I built a firepit back in august with some of it and it came out wonderfully strong. I used some of the firebrick seconds I got from Pacific Clay. Two weeks ago it rained and I went out to see how the mortar held up in the rain. The bricks came apart as if they were held together with wet sand. I would caution to you if you bought the same mortar to keep your oven as dry as possible this winter.

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