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Old 02-28-2013, 01:00 AM
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Of course I have researched and checked already and it can be done mikku. public liabilty insurance, HACCP (food safety). The food safety authority will send an inspector to check over the kitchen in the house, once they're happy you can go ahead to the markets and await a visit from the health inspector. The vendors licence is in essence the ''click'' and they dont like to share.

So ill be making dough at home and bringing it with me already prepard, meat ingreidients will be bought in prepard ie. sliced pepperoni/diced ham. Things will be kept cold either in cool boxes or if thats not wotking i have a small jenny and a small freezer that i can bring along. for hot water (health and safety) I will have my small rocket stove, if they are not happy with that!! well ill have to look into getting a small gas water heater or a burka that i can run off the jenny. once you do your temp checks, have access to hot water and batch codes noted, they are happy to let you trade.

I dont have a small truck/pick-up mikku, im doing what i can with what i have. Rules dont differ much from place to place here they're all the same, obviously you cant just show up and start selling food.

Exactly Laurentius, before someone else does and I can't get my licence because someone else has started doing pizza and what not before me.

Only if the sides have to be metal..... I would like to clad them in timber for the asthethics of it chip

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Old 02-28-2013, 01:25 AM
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I think that this is getting off track also I detect a pinch of sarcasim off you mikku. I need to know about building the oven, not to explain the meanderings of market life in the Emerald Isle
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:42 AM
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As your oven supporting slab is the same size as mine, then it will presumably be around the same weight. I see two problems for you to overcome. Firstly the weight will be largely on the two big yellow wheels. I found with mine that four wheels were insufficient and they began to dig into the floor bed of my trailer. My solution was to add two extra wheels between the others. This spread the load nicely and added the advantage of the leading wheels being able to bridge the small gap between the trailer and the oven stand.(see my pics on previous post). You may be able to achieve a similar effect by adding adjustable jockey wheels to the front and back as has been suggested previously, but that still may be insufficient and you may need to strengthen the trailer under the wheel tracks.
The second problem I see is that you will have a very high centre of mass once the oven is built on the stand then loaded onto the trailer. This could make transportation difficult. I generally leave my oven on the trailer and cook with it there although I can also dismantle the steel stand once the oven is on the trailer and assemble it on site. It is a little too low in working height but that is a price I am willing to pay for having a stable transportable oven. Hope this gives you some food for thought. There is usually always a workable solution.
Another thing that I think worth doing is to make the flue removable for transportation so that it can't wobble around.
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:02 PM
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Seen the pics david, thats a nice oven. I was thinking about putting skids on the trailer bed to hold the cart wheels in place. If I can get a short amount of smalish rsj's or ''I' beams they would function a guide track for easier loading and offloading aswell as supporting the weight of the oven, otherwise I was thinking 2 short sleepers fixed to the trailer bed with a scoop/track in the center of them for the cart wheels to slot into for transport.

I have a flu stack but I was thinking that I would just a dome without it.

A SMALL HORSEBOX!!!! yes that would be the right job, I'm going to look into it

For loading and unloading mikku it is a job for 2 men with the winch, I am concerned about the structural resonance frequency of my setup, but the oven is going on that cart. I am taking a bit of a chance yes.... but it's my oven and I want a stand alone ''roll on roll off'' oven.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:13 PM
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Trying to build a small, light , cheap oven to run a business out of is like trying to fly by jumping at the ground .., it's never worked before, but if you succeed we'll all be jealous.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:16 PM
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Don't now how this post landed here, sorry
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:26 PM
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2 Men and a winch???? I move my 42" oven alone all the time. Build it right and it's not an issue. Thin about moving pallets with a pallet jack. One guy can move a couple tons with one, but they are built to do it.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:41 PM
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I'll post again next week when I have some more done.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:03 AM
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Trying to build a small, light , cheap oven to run a business out of is like trying to fly by jumping at the ground .., it's never worked before, but if you succeed we'll all be jealous.
I built my oven to hire out to people for private parties and that's where it gets most of its use. I offer to operate the oven if people want that and charge more of course. Parties up to 30 are easy and I've done some with more than double that number.If guests share whatever comes out of the oven, a piece of this a piece of that, you can feed a large crowd.But if I were planning on doing markets and selling individual pizzas to the public, I would really need a bigger oven, that could comfortably cook two at a time.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:11 AM
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All and more considered already mikku. I have no intention of setting up on the side of a hill and if there is a slight incline its nothing that chocks would'nt remedy. There is an easy solution to the weather. I'm not going to pay people to que up to buy things, and who is going to wait for hours?? In the usa if you go into any well established fast food franchise and order ANYTHING from the menu you get it instantaneously, in ireland you have to wait maybe 2-6 minutes depending on what you have ordered, in thailand the food looks the same as the picture.... Par-baking bases has more than 1 benefit. Wheel chocks will stop the cart from running away.

David do you par-bake? and would you really not fit 2 small pizza's at a time?

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