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Old 10-31-2013, 06:26 PM
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Gudday
Sorry I don't want to appear to be rude but. I don't see a moisture barrier in that slab? If you have not included one in your construction it would be Advantage to use the foil as a moisture barrier to prevent water from wicking into your oven structure
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:46 PM
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yep there's no moisture barrier.
nothing I can do about that now except live with it..

if it becomes a problem - I'll use the cream on the bottom row of blocks.

The soil is granite based and it probably more porous than the concrete. :P
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:00 PM
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more pics...
thermal mass slab is finished...





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Old 11-13-2013, 07:17 PM
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So in order to save a little cash, I have decided to put the floor bricks on big side down (so a 75mm height)

This will save me around 40 bricks, but I'll also lose 40mm of thermal mass from the floor.

I have already added 50mm extra in concrete, so I'm just going to run with what I've got and see how it goes.

It will be 2" extra than what is under most Pompeii's - so it should be ok.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:12 PM
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How much are fire brick now . At the time I built they were $3.30 ea and were roughly 1/2 my build cost. ( we always discount our labour don't we)
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I have already added 50mm extra in concrete, so I'm just going to run with what I've got and see how it goes.

It will be 2" extra than what is under most Pompeii's - so it should be ok.

But there should be insulation between the hearth bricks and the supporting slab.....
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:33 AM
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But there should be insulation between the hearth bricks and the supporting slab.....
There's what looks like 100mm (4") of vermicrete there.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:13 AM
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They are still around the 3.30 mark.

I managed to get 200 for $400, and don't feel like spending any more than that.

Built as per the plans requires 230 bricks. Laying the floor 75mm means I won't have to buy any more, and should use about 190 bricks.

Yep- I have layed a 4" structural slab, then 4" of perlcrete, and then 2" of thermal mass.

(I probably should delete that pic from the plans that shows 4" of mass under the floor)
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Old 11-21-2013, 03:16 PM
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So I'll be laying the floor, walls and hopefully the vault this weekend.

The plans call for an oven opening of 400mm, but I'll be widening this to 450mm, or about 18 inches, and per the standard.

Floor width is 34" so I am hoping that the extra 2 inches will improve the burn, and access to the oven.

The swishy oven I built previously has a 400mm opening, and although adequate, I think it's a little on the restrictive side. I'm hoping the extra 50mm will make all the difference.

Not sure how that will effect the opening arch - I will just have to 'make it work' without effecting the opening height.
The plans call for using 50mm bricks for the opening, But I will be cutting full size bricks in half to make these. (should about 35mm after cutting)

I'm just going to 'make them fit'
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Ok so made a good deal of progress on the weekend, got the floor all layed down. I went for an easy pattern, rather than the more time consuming 'herringbone' style which is so popular with Pompei builders.







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