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Old 12-22-2009, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: brickless dome on a shoestring oven

Oven now looks nice and white. There was sustained small and medium fires over the weekend.
If all goes well we will insulate with Perlite this afternoon.
Might have a pizza fire by this Christmas, well ahead of our New Years deadline.
Look for more pictures soon.

Thanks for all the comments and advice.
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Old 12-23-2009, 10:20 AM
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pics of insulation and flue.
next stucco and finish work.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:58 PM
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Looking good so far!
Are you going to offer free pizzas to the apartment dwellers behind your property in lieu of paying The Smoke Tax?
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:03 AM
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Be careful that your perlite layer is really dry before you stucco. You end up adding gallons of water to this layer and the steam it can generate is considerable. Best to wait a week at least before stucco, then keep the stucco layer damp for a week by wrapping it in clingwrap or damp burlap.
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:20 PM
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Is the Perlite supposed to be applied loosely on top of the dome or does it need to be packed down,compressed?

That is my next step.
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:32 PM
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If you are doing an enclosure you can add it loose. If you are doing an igloo you need to add something (cement probably) to bind the perlite (or vermiculite) together so it will stay in place.
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:03 PM
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If you are doing an enclosure you can add it loose. If you are doing an igloo you need to add something (cement probably) to bind the perlite (or vermiculite) together so it will stay in place.
I should have explained my question better.
I am applying the perlcrete wet, but do I need to pack it down on top of the dome or just kind of slop it up on top?
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Old 12-26-2009, 05:26 PM
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Compressing it too much will reduce its insulation capacity. I usually just pat it with the flat of a trowel to get a nice shape.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:27 AM
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Cooked pizza!

Our original deadline was new years, but fires were lit
and cooked 6 pies, roasted bell peppers, and made awesome
chicken and linguisa sausages on Dec 27th

the oven performed beautifully.
Pics below.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:27 AM
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Another firing of the oven last night.
This time with a an even hotter fire. Flames shooting out of the flue.
The dome goes white just like a brick oven. Floor and wall temps over 900 degrees according to my IR gun.

No cracks or failure in the dome. New Years Pizza Party is a go.

Here are some pics of the oven and a homemade peel/turner
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