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Old 12-11-2009, 07:30 PM
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You could try it small scale using chicken wire to sub for rebar. Use a paver (10x10" should do) as the base and build on that. Once done, fire it up and see what happens. If it works, bake a muffin then get busy on the full size model. If not, you can experiment some more w/o wasting a lot of material.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:33 PM
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"Its always been my understanding that rebar and cement have the same coefficient of expansion and will expand and the same rate."

I assume you mean "concrete" instead of "cement". (Cement is the powdery substance that , added with aggregate and water = concrete). Yes they have about the same coefficient of expansion (8.0 and 7.3 )
This is why you can always spot an engineer a mile away... (Okay, that and the obligatory pocket protector.)




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Old 12-12-2009, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: brickless dome on a shoestring oven

Its a bit late now... but is there a reason, under the circumstances, that you didn't go for a clay oven? It'd be a similar build, but with a (free) material that has been tried and tested.

That said, its fascinating to see someone trying something new . I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...
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Default Re: brickless dome on a shoestring oven

Thanks for all the comments and advice. It is very much appreciated.

Spent some time in the garage fabricating a simple plug/form for the flue out of scrap wood.
Its 10*12 inches at the base and tapers into a 6 inch pipe. We'll place this ontop
of the sand form and burn it out once the concrete hardens.

If the weather cooperates, we'll pack on the concrete today.
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I'm not sure a solid plug like that will be all that easy to burn out. It might be easier to wax or grease that for a mold release and remove it manually.
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high temp concrete applied over the sand mold last night.
pics here....

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now the hard part, waiting for it to set up.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:12 PM
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Default sand, bucket, bottle and can removed...

Pulled the sand, wine bottles, beer cans and 5 gallon bucket out of the oven.
Looks great. Will start curing fires asap in hopes of new years pizza.

entire gallery here...
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any comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: sand, bucket, bottle and can removed...

Started small curing fires. the dome is slowly changing from wet concrete color to white. its hard restraining yourself from starting a large fire.
So far no cracks. Will insulate with Perlite before lighting a crazy fire.

Also removed the wood flue plug. Installed a common 6 inch wide, 36 inch long steel vent and it works great. ($7)

Will create a flue cap out of a used stainless salad bowl.


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Pulled the sand, wine bottles, beer cans and 5 gallon bucket out of the oven.
Looks great. Will start curing fires asap in hopes of new years pizza.

entire gallery here...
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:14 AM
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Michelevit

Love your "brickless dome on a shoestring oven" thread. I also built mine on a shoestring, but had reclaimed bricks, so my build was quite different in construction to yours. The principle still remaines the same.........To build a functioning wood-oven with the minimum of cost, using what materials are at hand.

Hav'nt posted on this thread until now, but have followed from the first post and wish you every success in completion of your project.

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