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johngalt 05-27-2010 08:31 PM

Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
I'm in the planning stages to build a trailer-mounted unit and in a conversation with a health department inspector, she said a wood oven should be fine as long as there are no seams in the deck...which all but rules out firebrick.

what are my other choices for a deck, either DIY or purchase?

My oven size is going to be 36-40".

Has anyone else worked around the need for a seamless deck for commercial cooking?

SCChris 06-01-2010 07:53 AM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
How about a pour in place product? I also have to wonder is, how do deck ovens and the typical conveyor style pizza ovens get around this requirement?

Chris

johngalt 06-01-2010 08:06 AM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
A cast deck is what I'm leaning toward, just using the same refractory concrete mix that I will use for the dome, and then buffing it down smooth after it cures.

Any of the big restaurant ovens like woodstone have seamless hearths...here's how woodstone describes their monster:

[A] 750-pound, monolithic, cast-ceramic floor sits on 4 inches of rigid insulation and is poured to a thickness of 4 inches.

Same with a traditional deck oven, they have some kind of ceramic stone hearth that costs thousands (I've talked to restaurant equipment suppliers)

BrickStoneOven 06-01-2010 11:47 AM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
You should ask the HD again because even deck ovens where I work have seams. It would be impossible to have one big piece of stone in there, because how are you going to get it out when you have to change it. I would ask them again about this because you could get a diameter made that you want then cut into 1/4 pieces. That is how the FB oven floors are and so are the Stefano Ferrara ovens. Its a set diameter cut into 1/4 pieces. As you can see here in the Premio oven description House and Garden Pizza Oven.

Woodstone ovens are not good for high temp use.

phippsj 11-18-2010 01:28 PM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johngalt (Post 90873)
I'm in the planning stages to build a trailer-mounted unit and in a conversation with a health department inspector, she said a wood oven should be fine as long as there are no seams in the deck...which all but rules out firebrick.

what are my other choices for a deck, either DIY or purchase?

My oven size is going to be 36-40".

Has anyone else worked around the need for a seamless deck for commercial cooking?

I am going to build a similiar trailer option in January. Heard the same thing. I am planning on using soapstone.

Nic The Landscaper 11-18-2010 05:05 PM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
Go for 3cm soap Stone set over fire brick splits. It's about the only option you have that wont break the bank completely.

Tscarborough 11-18-2010 05:29 PM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
You can have seams on the floor, he/she/it does not know what they are talking about.

Tscarborough 11-18-2010 05:32 PM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
I just re-read it, and the title is different than what you say in the body of the post. They are probably correct about no seams in food prep areas (I don't know, but it seems logical), of which the deck would be considered, but wrong about inside the oven.

lwood 11-19-2010 02:16 AM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
I agree Tscar, why would seams in the hearth be a problem? At 700F, any food particles are going to incinerate as soon as they touch the hearth, if not before. Ash also fills in the gaps and nothing will get down there anyway. I would ask the inspector why it's a problem.

phippsj 11-19-2010 01:19 PM

Re: Oven Floor / deck without seams
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lwood (Post 102458)
I agree Tscar, why would seams in the hearth be a problem? At 700F, any food particles are going to incinerate as soon as they touch the hearth, if not before. Ash also fills in the gaps and nothing will get down there anyway. I would ask the inspector why it's a problem.

Your asking for common sense, which does not always apply. If you do not want to have to show a certificate that the inside of the oven was cleaned after every engagement, you cannot have seems on any part of it which is exposed to food. At least that is what I was told in South Texas. Soapstone is an easy fix.


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