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james 04-02-2008 10:02 AM

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We have been approached my a manufacturer to see if we are interested in an outdoor granite farmhouse sink. It looks very nice, and we are thinking of selling it through the FB Store. Still, I wanted to check with the group to get a sanity check. What do you think?

We talked about these before, and they seem to cost $1,000+. We could sell this one for less than half that.

What do you think? Are you interested? Do you think there is a market for these in outdoor kitchen design?

James

Richard 04-02-2008 02:31 PM

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When we built our outdoor living space with WFO, BBQ, Freige we opted not to go with a sink due to cost of putting in water line and connecting to sewer. Sink would have been the least of the cost. Digging up and replacing hard scape etc was the tru expense. If we had built from sratch, i.e no exisitng backyard installed may have put in a sink and also one of the draw type dishwashers, but after 2+ years have not really missed not having a sink.

asudavew 04-02-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 28357)
we opted not to go with a sink due to cost of putting in water line and connecting to sewer. Sink would have been the least of the cost. Digging up and replacing hard scape etc was the tru expense.

I would imagine this is the main reason people don't install outdoor sinks.

Although most of us would probably like to have one.

dmun 04-02-2008 03:21 PM

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I wish I had a sink outside. Fire tending tends to leave your hands dirty, and then you start handling dough which ends up a suspicious grey color.

An outdoor sink in this neck of the woods needs to be disconnected and drained four months a year, making it sort of a nuisance. Last year I had an outdoor hose line, which I had turned off, and thought I had drained, freeze and split the copper line. The good news is that a backyard sink for occasional use can drain to a french drain, avoiding a sewer line hook-up.

james 04-02-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dmun (Post 28362)
... The good news is that a backyard sink for occasional use can drain to a french drain, avoiding a sewer line hook-up.

Agreed. You can build a vertical french drain, with drain pipe and rocks, or hook into one is you already have.

James

RTflorida 04-02-2008 04:55 PM

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Although a sink could be handy and useful I opted not to install one 5 yrs ago when I did my outdoor "kitchen" (counters, fridge, grill) due to the costs and troubles mentioned by Richard. The French drain was an option but tapping into a water line left me with cutting 40' of concrete pool decking or trenching about 60' of my yard. I just didn't have it in me to do either (and I'm a cheapskate who doesn't pay anyone to do something I am capable of), some days I really wish I had (usually when firing the oven like dmun mentions), but most days I don't.

RT

gjbingham 04-02-2008 08:48 PM

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RT, we sound like long lost brothers.

I'm (slowly) building an outdoor kitchen. I may install a sink, but probably won't plumb it because I don't think I'll use it. I'd only do it for potential ease of sale of the house down the road. I don't think I'd spend more than a couple hundred bucks on a sink. It's kind of like an outdoor refridgerator. Sounds nice, but eats energy, doesn't get used, and kids mess with it.

BTW James, gorgeous sink though. There might be a wider market for it. We builders are cheapskates to begin with. That's why we didn't buy the prebuilt ovens, awsome as they are.

cvdukes 04-02-2008 09:42 PM

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I've got to agree with RT and George about us builders mostly being cheapskates.
I too am building a outdoor kitchen area, but went ahead and opted to stick a sink in... a very deep stainless one that came from a neighbor's remodel at zero cost, so I can't weigh in one that would run several hundred.
Since its a little bit of a hike out to the area, a sink comes in useful...Right now i just have cold water run to it, but by the end of this year, I hope to connect it up to a solar collector i'm installing out there. Early construction picture of the sink counter attached.

Even if a sink doesn't get used much as a sink, its great to fill up with ice to keep drinks cold in. Of course I went one better on the drink cooling idea... behind the sink I built my 'beer trough' ... this'll hold 72 longnecks in ice. A couple of corked holes let the water drain to the sink as the ice melts.

But back to your granite sink... I'm sure there are several that would opt for the more refined look and that is a good looking sink. If ya'll can get in the $500-600 price range, there probably is a market.

RTflorida 04-02-2008 10:21 PM

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I will say this, that granite sink is beautiful and if I were starting from scratch and didn't have to dodge sprinkler lines or cut up my deck, I probably would have put in a sink - but to be honest a much cheaper one...the granite sink would be one of those "if I win the lottery" purchases.

Now the outdoor fridge has been very handy its exacty 10' from my pool (code compliance), was dirt cheap ($79), and has kept a few "cold ones" within easy reach, whether using the pool, doing yard work, grilling, and now pizza baking. I was skeptical at buying such a cheap appliance, so far (5 yrs) its worked flawlessly at keeping things cold even during the nasty, steamy summer months.

RT

Frances 04-02-2008 11:54 PM

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Yes the sink is very beautiful. But no, I wouldn't install one.

And if I did, I'd probably want to make it myself, out of cast polished concrete maybe...?

Maybe the forum is the wrong place to ask. How many customers do you have who ask you to build an oven from scratch in their gardens? They'd be your most likely customers for this, wouldn't they?


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