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telehort 01-08-2009 10:05 AM

Christmas visit to Italy
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We took 35 high school kids to Italy and Greece over the holidays. We stopped at Pompeii which was fascinating. We went to what was the bakery and here are a few pictures. I will try to get some better pics of the oven from others who were on the tour. My pics of inside the oven didn't come out. The giant pieces of stone were the flour mills, the grains went in up at the top and then were ground between the stones by the use of slaves who walked in circles to turn it. It was very interesting.

Wiley 01-08-2009 12:12 PM

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Telehort, Cool looking grind stones, was there a info placard telling about them?
I'm curious, they look very symetrical and I'm wondering are the grind surfaces cone shaped? They look like they were made to be inverted when they reached a certain amount of wear. If they are cone shaped it would form the funnel on the top and the cone would keep the stone centered on the bottom when it was rotated. Any more info? Those Romans were quite clever.

telehort 01-08-2009 01:43 PM

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Wiley - There weren't any placards, but the arm of the person you can see in the picture was our tour guide who would explain what we were looking at. I really wish I would have jumped up and taken a picture of the top of the grind stone, but my understanding was that the rock was funnel shaped on the inside and that there was a hole that the grain would drop through and then be ground again the bottom rock. Maybe someone else has been here and may have some more info. I guess I may have to go google and try and find some more info. As far as your comment about the Romans..I was absolutely amazed at the things they were doing thousands of years ago. It is one thing to learn about it in school, but to actually see it is person, it really blows you away.

Frances 01-09-2009 07:24 AM

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That is incredible! Very cool. You would think those grinding stone were made out of concrete to look at, wouldn't you?

I really must go and see Pompeii one of these days.

Pdiff 05-08-2009 10:19 PM

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Hope to make it there next year. This site has some info on the grinding stones/mill. Not surprisingly, the stone is volcanic pumice.

The Bakery in Pompeii

mfiore 05-09-2009 04:52 AM

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That's awesome. I can assure you, we never had any cool trips like that when I was in school! Lucky kids. I hope they appreciated it.

Wiley 05-09-2009 07:50 AM

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I'm sure I'm not the first to see this problem, but the first line of the article shadows the whole with the thought that perhaps the author needs a better researcher.

"Difficult as it is to trace the origin and development of a commercial corn-grinding industry in Pompeii, there seems no doubt that it was becoming steadily more important in the later Republic."

Corn?! Corn came from the New World.


james 05-09-2009 11:17 AM

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Ooops. Our second daughter had colonial day at school yesterday. Fifth grade.

Pdiff 05-09-2009 06:24 PM

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Yes, I noticed that too, but thought perhaps it was a general reference to grains, as in the similar term "barley corn". Could be wrong though.

MK1 05-09-2009 07:45 PM

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Yeah, that's right, all grain was referred to as "corn". It wasn't until maize came from here that the entomology changed. This had me confused for years, not that I'm not still confused.


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