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dsgreco 10-27-2009 07:09 PM

Hello from Long Island
I have been lurking for weeks.....I am ready to make the plunge. I live within an hour of so many great places to get pizza and I eat a lot of it. I still feel the need to make my own at home. Thanks to everyone on the forum for providing so much great information. I really feel ready to get started. The slab is already in place (the backyard came that way) so step one is already complete!


ThisOldGarageNJ 10-28-2009 03:45 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
HI ds
welcome to the club,, If you have the foundation done you have one of the physically hardest parts done... the rest is cake..ok pizza... enjoy and take lots of pics..we love pics here

dbhansen 10-28-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
Welcome, Doug! Will you be building through the winter? I'm sure you've checked, but make sure the slab is thick enough, and reinforced. Wouldn't want it to crack on ya'!
- Daren

dsgreco 10-28-2009 10:03 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
I do plan on building through the winter (I enjoy a nice outdoor winter project). Any advice on that topic would be appreciated!

ThisOldGarageNJ 10-28-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Hello from Long Island

I do plan on building through the winter
hey doug,, building thru the winter is tuff,,, your cement may not cure properly below freezing.. you could always build or buy a tent around your build and keep it semi warm though..

dsgreco 10-29-2009 05:24 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
I have a tent with sides which I will be using. I plan on avoiding the freezing nights as much as possible. If I cant is it ok to use some sort of mortar antifreeze mixed in with the refractory mortar while building the dome?

ThisOldGarageNJ 10-30-2009 05:38 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
Antifreeze" is a misnomer applied to admixtures for cold weather mortar that are really accelerators, and not depressants of the mortar freezing point. These mixtures may decrease the compressive and bond strengths of the masonry if they are used in quantities that significantly lower the freezing point in the mortar. Antifreeze compounds have little benefit and are not recommended. Accelerators may reduce the time that newly constructed masonry needs to be protected from cold temperatures, but they do not eliminate the need for such protection.

Accelerators normally used include soluble carbonates, silicates and fluosilicates, aluminous cements, calcium aluminate, and some organic compounds such as triethanolamine. Calcium chloride is sometimes used as an accelerator, but may produce side-effects such as corrosion of steel (reinforcement, ties, anchors). For that reason, calcium chloride should not be permitted for use in mortar.

ds, I hope this helps. you may want to do some more research on this....

dsgreco 10-30-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Hello from Long Island
Thank you for the advice NJ. I am going to avoid the use of an accelerator, not worth the potential problems. The plan is going to be build the stand starting sunday and pour the hearth in the next week. The weather is still fine and the temps look ok for now. I will evaluate things again at that point. I will post pics next week.

ThisOldGarageNJ 10-30-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Hello from Long Island
looking forward to it......

dsgreco 11-03-2009 11:32 AM

Re: Hello from Long Island
Dry stacked the blocks this weekend for the stand. It looks great, but have a problem. I think I may need a permit for this build. I had some conflicting info. but have decided to be safe rather than sorry.

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