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msclark65 07-20-2007 10:34 AM

Hello from Dash Point, Washington
Hi everyone, I am seriously considering building a brick over on the bulkhead of my beach on the Puget Sound. I am considering building it lower to the ground than the one in the plans. I would apprecreciate any advice or tips.


DrakeRemoray 07-20-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
Welcome, why build it lower?

msclark65 07-20-2007 12:58 PM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
It will be the only structure on my 25' x 25' concrete patio just a few feet from the beach. I am concerned about it obstructin the view from my house which sits back about 50 feet. Just trying to think ahead.

Les 07-20-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
The recommended height is very important for the oven, unless you donít plan on cooking in it. I am concerned about obstruction as well; I am going the igloo route to minimize it.


DrakeRemoray 07-20-2007 01:56 PM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
It would be very uncomfortable to have to bend way down to use the oven. Perhaps you could sink the area in front of the oven somehow so you were still standing at a comfortable level?

Just an idea...


msclark65 07-20-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
I was thinking of building my base one course of concrete blocks lower than the model recommended in the plans on this site. That would make the oven floor about 32 inches above grade. Lowering the ground around the oven is not a convenient option because I already have an existing slab. Other than the potential pain in my back from bending over, will the height effect the funtionin of the oven?

JoeT62 07-21-2007 04:07 AM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
It shouldn't, but be careful that the top of the chimney doesn't end up so low that smoke is egressing at eye level.:eek:

maver 07-24-2007 07:50 AM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
Hi, I'm just down the road from you, and another builder, El Pauco, is also pretty close. If you are going to build it lower, you might have a go at using a stool (or knee pads) to avoid stooping while working the oven. I think you are right, protect the view. Could you build the oven at the edge of your pad and have a depressed area off the edge of the pad? Don't forget to consider prevailing winds when you plan your opening.


El Puaco 07-24-2007 08:25 AM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
Maver is making some good points. Try to imagine being stooped over while you work the oven. It can be done of course but as James has pointed out in the past, the oven probably want's to have an approx 36" floor. Mine is 38" or so. You will have a chimney to contend with where your view is concerned and as Maver noted you have a prevailing wind from the SW most of the year. It's all about compromise anyway. Once you start and the concrete is poured you can probably work around the reality of it. Best of luck and remember to take lots of pictures and share them with us.

msclark65 07-24-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Hello from Dash Point, Washington
Thanks guys! that is good advice. I am starting to rething the whole idea about putting on the bulkhead. Maybe I will just build so I can use it on the deck when I redo the deck. That way I can put it off to the side so as not to block the view. I did like the idea of having it double as a fireplace and cooking pizza on the beach, but I can simply build a freestanding firepit on the bulkhead and use that for smores and hotdogs and such.

In light of the fact that I will probably only do this once, I am going to do a lot of planning before I start. I will remember to take pictures once I do.

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