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Old 06-29-2009, 10:42 PM
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Thanks, Lars. I think I'll use a chisel for most of the bricks in the dome, but I'll use the saw to make nice, clean cuts on the floor and the transition. That seems like a good compromise between the traditional way and the modern way. I went and picked up the HF saw today and put it together tonight. Everyone gets a +1 for the comments about the assembly instructions. Absolutely useless. I need to get a chisel from a friend this week, then I'm totally in business.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:24 PM
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Thanks, Lars. I think I'll use a chisel for most of the bricks in the dome, but I'll use the saw to make nice, clean cuts on the floor and the transition. That seems like a good compromise between the traditional way and the modern way. I went and picked up the HF saw today and put it together tonight. Everyone gets a +1 for the comments about the assembly instructions. Absolutely useless. I need to get a chisel from a friend this week, then I'm totally in business.
I don't get it. You have a fairly precise instrument now, which could enable you to build your dome with much smaller joints and much greater structural integrity. It wasn't free, either. Why not use it?

If anything, I'd say that the transition and floor could easily be done with a chisel, whereas a tight dome practically requires a 10" diamond saw. YMMV. I used mine for just about everything and certainly don't regret doing so.
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Old 06-30-2009, 07:12 AM
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Well Papavino,
Of course everyone thinks their own way is the best, otherwise, why would they choose it for themselves. Personally, I liked the quiet plink, and relatively accurate angle cuts I made with a chisel. ( and I will let you know in 100 years whether my dome has 'structural integrity') I am sure that many of the surviving ovens from antiquity were made with a 10" diamond saw, so I guess I am stuck in the stone age.

I am pretty sure that either way, ( chisel of saw) with the proper mortar, your dome will have structural integrity. I put up a post about using a chisel for cutting a taper on bricks in the 'tips and techniques' section a while back. I thought this method worked very well for my dome, and reduced the size of the mortar joints between the bricks horizontally at least...
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Old 06-30-2009, 08:56 AM
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I'm sure both methods will create a structurally sound oven. I'm going to try them both just to gain the experience. That's what is so great about this. I'm greatly expanding my skill set during this project. I've never used a tile saw, never cut brick, never chiseled brick. But after this week I will have done all of those.
In anticipation of the end result, I made a pizza last night to feed the helpers. Conventional oven, but it was still good.

Take care.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:02 AM
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Lars, I don't think tt was attacking your build method. I think we all have an appreciation for "old school" work by hand. This thread was all about using a wet saw (whether good or bad) and papa was obviously bitten by the power tool bug and purchased the saw.....now he has a saw that he may or may not use. I'm a bit confused as well.

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Old 06-30-2009, 10:12 AM
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I'm going to use it. No need to be confused. But I'm probably going to cut some brick using the chisel as well. Nowhere does it say that I have to use one method exclusively. I want to try different methods. I've got lots of tile projects coming up, too, so the saw will see plenty of use over the next year.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:55 AM
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Hey RT,

After reading on this forum, I will probably get a tile saw too!! Nobody is attacking anyone, here. Papavino has the right idea, in my opinion... lots of cool methods to learn in the oven building process -- and many ways to do the same thing.

I hadn't laid any regular old house brick before, and I am just amazed at how easily one can cut them with a chisel. They break remarkably clean. But, that being said, there are definitely place where it would be nice to use a tile saw.

Even tile ( which I have done several times) is fairly easy to cut using the 'score and crack' method, but there are times when it would be nice to make an abrasive cut.

I have several more cure fires to go before I know how many cracks I will end up with. I have a lot to learn and that's what attracts me to this forum.

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Old 06-30-2009, 11:09 AM
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papavino, the one thing you will find with a wet saw - when you get comfortable with using it, you will find that you can almost split hairs with it and nibble a brick or tile into almost any shape. A diamond blade is a wonderful thing.

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Old 06-30-2009, 11:24 AM
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I'm fully expecting the saw to make the job of tiling our shower go smoothly. And the bathroom floor. And the tiled entry-way. And the countertop for the oven. And our kitchen. So much on the calendar... But that will all wait, as the oven is job #1.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:47 AM
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HF has a coupon in the circular that I received this week. The coupon offers the saw for $199.99. Blade and stand are extra.
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