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If you told the mason what to build, it isn't his deal. I run across this often with fireplaces "designed" by architects. The mason builds it as drawn, and when it doesn't work the architect and GC want to blame the mason because he is an expert at building fireplaces. And he is an expert at BUILDING them, not designing them.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:12 PM
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Yikes! My worst nightmare (regarding pizza ovens). At least yours was not enclosed. I am sure you will have it back up in no time.

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Old 02-01-2011, 08:59 PM
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Thumbs up Legos & used fire brick have something in common :)

They are easy to recycle!

I plan to make a flared oven entry like the one you made.

Good luck on the rebuild, and, with life's other trials. :bucketfullofencouragement:
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:18 PM
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I plan to make a flared oven entry like the one you made.
Dont make the arch so flat unless you have heaps of buttressing to back up the downwards load.
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Old 02-02-2011, 04:43 AM
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I feel your pain... You a very gutsey bloke for posting that one.. thanks
You still have the stand, you still have he bricks.....
I've always wanted to build a secound oven.... think of it this way. You have the stand already build the bricks sourced and cut... your many steps ahead already

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Old 02-02-2011, 02:15 PM
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Good to see you are rebuilding. On the bright side you know if the previous size was adequate for your needs so this new build will be exactly what you want. I'm building a 33" oven and have no idea if it's to big or small for my needs.
Thanks for sharing I'm sure there are many of us out there who will change our arch plans due to your post.
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Old 02-02-2011, 03:29 PM
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Flat arches are fine, you just have to realize that they will have more outward thrust and allow for that force. All arches exhibit this, some more than others. For an unengineered arch, err on the side of more mass.
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If you told the mason what to build, it isn't his deal. I run across this often with fireplaces "designed" by architects. The mason builds it as drawn, and when it doesn't work the architect and GC want to blame the mason because he is an expert at building fireplaces. And he is an expert at BUILDING them, not designing them.
Wouldn't you expect that he at least knew the right mortar or mix to use, or give some sort of guidance? I wish I could fall back on ' you told me to do it that way' when something goes wrong. (which hasn't happened, but i won't build something for someone if I know it's going to fail, but maybe that's just me)

I should also add, that if you had a friend do it, this entire point is moot. I had a buddy that said he'd help me with projects (for free), then added, I'll make sure you get what you pay for, and I'll pay you back double if it goes wrong!
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:29 AM
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It depends. All masons are not fireplace or oven masons. Some masons lay only rock, some lay brick, some do it all.
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Good luck wit the next one, I would recommend getting a HF saw, home brew mortar, tapering the bricks and doing it yourself ( it cant possibly come out worse)
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