Go Back   Forno Bravo Forum: The Wood-Fired Oven Community > Good Background Information > Brick Oven Photos

Like Tree1Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #141  
Old 10-23-2008, 02:35 PM
egalecki's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,049
Default Re: Michigan WFO

it's not nearly as cold here, and my hands are frozen from working on stucco! I can't imagine in the 30's!
__________________
Elizabeth


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 10-25-2008, 07:46 PM
mfiore's Avatar
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 919
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frances View Post
Thats a very cool dome and a lovely keystone - congratulations!!

How are you planning to do the outside of it?
Thanks, Frances. To be honest, I'm not sure how I'll enclose it yet. I like the look of a dome, but my wife wants more of a walled enclosure. I'll make some sort of walled enclosure.

The problem is going to be the design. I'll have to give it a rest over the winter to plan a little bit. Unlike yourself, I don't have a single creative bone in me. I'm a science guy. I can follow directions well, and can be meticulous when needed. I can't come up with something that looks nice on my own.
__________________
Mike - Saginaw, MI


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 10-25-2008, 07:50 PM
mfiore's Avatar
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 919
Default Re: Michigan WFO

I built the outer arch today. For the first time in this build, I'm not really happy with the way it turned out. The bricks didn't end up as uniform as I would have liked. I hope they provide the structural support I need to hold up the chimney.

In retrospect, I wish I put more "arch" in my arches. They have only a small rise, and I'm worried this might negatively impact the load bearing capacity.


__________________
Mike - Saginaw, MI


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 10-25-2008, 09:59 PM
Les's Avatar
Les Les is offline
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 2,842
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Quote:
Originally Posted by mfiore View Post
my wife wants more of a walled enclosure. I'll make some sort of walled enclosure.
Brilliant! - sounds like a solid plan.

Mike, in regard to the side loading of your arch... I think if you drop some steel into your hearth, with some cored brick - you should be good. Since you are obviously going with a walled enclosure, you can beef it up with pretty much anything and no one will ever see it.

Les...
__________________
Check out my pictures here:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving isn't for you.
Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 10-26-2008, 11:14 AM
egalecki's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,049
Default Re: Michigan WFO

I did the same thing Les did, with the rebar and cored brick- it worked great to correct the lateral force problem.

If you're going to enclose it, you could also do what Ken did- an angle bracket with insulation in between it and the vent side. It won't show and it'll be easier.

If you're not happy with the way the arch looks, you can face it again with brick "slices". I did that to mine (although it was for a different reason). Since it wasn't structural at all, just for looks, I could do what I wanted to with them. I'm happier with my "fake" arch than I was with the real one.
__________________
Elizabeth


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 10-26-2008, 02:14 PM
Dutchoven's Avatar
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 931
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Mike
It is quite a shallow arch so it would be a good idea to support it on the haunches...the cored rick and rebar is a great way to do so...there is only one concern I have and it may just be from the picture but it appears that there is a brick that has a negative slope in the arch...the first brick left of center in the photo...under constant compression it would be fine but...under expansion it could create a problem...I hate to be the spoiler opinion but you have done such a great job so far that I would hate to see you have a problem with this...you can tap those out and re-lay that arch and I would think you would be much happier...once you get everything else in it would be a lot more difficult
Best
Dutch
__________________
"Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. " Charles Mingus
"Build at least two brick ovens...one to make all the mistakes on and the other to be just like you dreamed of!" Dutch
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 10-26-2008, 04:56 PM
mfiore's Avatar
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 919
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchoven View Post
Mike
it appears that there is a brick that has a negative slope in the arch...
I agree, Dutch. I've been staring at that damn brick for two days now. I don't know how that happened. I really wish I didn't have such a shallow arch. I use HeatStop. The stuff is already rock hard. I don't think it would be as simple as "tapping it out". How tough would it be to take down and do over?
__________________
Mike - Saginaw, MI


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 10-26-2008, 05:36 PM
Les's Avatar
Les Les is offline
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 2,842
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Mike - I don't think it will be too hard to knock them out. And as Dutch said, and I agree, it's easier now then later.

Les...
__________________
Check out my pictures here:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving isn't for you.
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 10-26-2008, 05:38 PM
Dutchoven's Avatar
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 931
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Quote:
Originally Posted by mfiore View Post
I agree, Dutch. I've been staring at that damn brick for two days now. I don't know how that happened. I really wish I didn't have such a shallow arch. I use HeatStop. The stuff is already rock hard. I don't think it would be as simple as "tapping it out". How tough would it be to take down and do over?
Mike
The mortar will have dried hard but if you move the brick in a way it would not normally move you should be able to unbond the joint...once you unbond one joint the rest should come pretty easy...when we repaired the arches above the windows in our building(also quite shallow "axed" arches I tapped the bricks upward(away from the center of the radius and they kind of slid upwards and eventually out...since they were part of a wall I was actually abel to do it without having to support the arches even when rebuilding them...you might start with that questionable brick as that is the potentially unstable spot...dry stack some bricks next to the bricks on the side and be careful in that vicinity as you don't want to unbond any of those...you can also find yourself a medium sized cold chisel to help chip at some of the mortar if necessary...it really should not be that tough and I really think you will be all the happier in the end...
Best of luck and keep me(us) posted!
Dutch
__________________
"Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. " Charles Mingus
"Build at least two brick ovens...one to make all the mistakes on and the other to be just like you dreamed of!" Dutch
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 10-27-2008, 02:28 AM
Frances's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Allschwil, Switzerland
Posts: 2,186
Default Re: Michigan WFO

Quote:
Originally Posted by mfiore View Post
I don't have a single creative bone in me. I'm a science guy. I can follow directions well, and can be meticulous when needed. I can't come up with something that looks nice on my own.

Well, its really lucky you've got wife who can help you out then, isn't it? (That's what I keep telling my husband, too.) Seriously, from looking at your work, I'm sure the outside will turn out great, whichever way you decide to go.

About the arch, I know just how you feel. On my oven I have about half a day to decide if I want to keep a doubtfull bit of mosaic or not. And you just sit there staring at it going Hmmmmm....

How about cutting the arch out with an angle grinder, might that work? I do think that if you have enough bricks to redo it you'll probably feel better about it afterwards.

What kind of chimney were you planning to use? Because if you're going with a light weight one, the arch should hold. Looking at the picture closely I think the brick with the negative slope is actually streight, it just looks like that because of the shape of the two bricks next to it. Then Sarah's solution would be a neat way of dealing with it too.
__________________
"Building a Brick oven is the most fun anyone can have by themselves." (Terry Pratchett... slightly amended)


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
anyone from Michigan or Nebraska fullback66 Chit Chat 11 06-03-2009 05:06 AM
northern michigan mason needed bluoma General Building and Construction 4 06-01-2008 08:08 AM
another Michigan build? SpringJim Introductions 17 04-27-2008 10:05 PM
Michigan Oven james Brick Oven Photos 3 04-02-2008 07:43 AM
Intro/Hello from Michigan, USA Windknot Introductions 8 03-10-2008 03:44 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:17 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2006/10 Forno Bravo, LLC