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Old 09-27-2013, 08:56 AM
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Ok Guys, finished the 7th row today, I found that I was having to cut every brick to shape to make a smaller gap at the bottom.

Is this normal for the gaps to be a menace on these rows?
For the 8th row I intend to make the bricks 3"x 2.31" so I will get 3 wedges for every brick, rather than cut them and then shape them individually is it possible to cut them with a desired slant so they fit better hence only having to cut once?

I only have a angle grinder so no jig, I have been racking my brain how to do this but it has me stumped, so if anyone can show me a picture/diagram how to do it, it would be a tremendous help.

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Old 09-27-2013, 09:05 AM
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Are you using a jig to cut your bricks? Doesn't sound like it from your description. My spreadsheet gives you the angles to build a jig based on the instructions in this thread

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...tilt-2802.html (Twist and Tilt)

oops. just read to the end and saw you are using an angle grinder. Maybe some sort of template so that you could mark the bricks. One cut should give you a usable edge on each side.

Or you might want to rent a brick saw for a day for the last couple courses if one is available
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Thanks DJ, found a thread on Texmans build, there was quite a lot of explanations plus diagrams on there too, I know I have some whopping gaps throughout the build but I'm learning to b e more careful as I head towwrds the completion of dome.

have to have a few days off now sadly and the weather forecast for rain next week so will update when Ive completed.
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:56 PM
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Ok Guys, finished the 7th row today, I found that I was having to cut every brick to shape to make a smaller gap at the bottom.

Is this normal for the gaps to be a menace on these rows?
For the 8th row I intend to make the bricks 3"x 2.31" so I will get 3 wedges for every brick, rather than cut them and then shape them individually is it possible to cut them with a desired slant so they fit better hence only having to cut once?

I only have a angle grinder so no jig, I have been racking my brain how to do this but it has me stumped, so if anyone can show me a picture/diagram how to do it, it would be a tremendous help.

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Gudday Paul
I built with an angle grinder as well so I know how frustrating it is with those gapes getting bigger as the rows become smaller. Your going to have to except those gapes. You oven will operate equally as well and will not fall down !
My ovens 3 yrs old now and still cooking great rough brickwork and all !
Look up Budget Build 36" in the getting started section , there's hardly a cut in the whole structure the pavers have been snapped in 1/2 s only.
I think you have done exceedingly well that inner arch transition is a masterpiece .... And done with an angle grinder!!!!
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:11 AM
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G'day Dave, Thank you for your encouragement and support, yes its been blood sweat and frustrations to get here, and its not the neatest of ovens by all means.
My main worry is the fire cement I'm using it says its not recommended for joints over 8mm the ones at the back and underneath are 3 times larger but because they are at the back maybe it will be ok, however there are some at the inner joints which are twice the recommended.
My hope is that the cement/glue is for 1000c so not reaching them temps will make it ok, not being able to understand the breakdown of cement properties gives me my cause for concern.

Glad you appreciate the work done with only angle grinder, I have seen my life pass before my eyes many a time I come to do the cuts, here is a picture of my set up.

Picture 1 & 2 shows the completed 7th row and the 8th row brick in place with the gap to overcome

Picture 3 shows my little set up (Bulgarian Jig) I clamp the brick, as shown stick my foot on the board and whizz away, I'm sure H&SE would have something to say about it.
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Gudday Paul
You should change your thinking about the mortar. Yes as your building it grabs each brick and holds it together. But the last brick goes in its role changes.
You have built yourself a dome. Gravity now becomes the thing that holds that dome together and makes it such a strong structure. The mortar become now somthing that seperates the bricks. The weight above bears down and its those Inside horizontal joints that are inportant to the strength of the structure. The mortar at the back and sides just position the brick and aren't really the load bearing bit.
By the way I use the Queensland Gudday. It's not as clipped as that from the Guday from down south and said a little more slowly, still one word ,but with 2 difined different 'D' sounds. Spell check hates it
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Yorkie,

Doing really well with your build considering all your cuts are with a angle grinder and a brick chisel. You are getting close to plugging the dome.
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Ha Ha,! Gudday Dave, thank you for the dialect correction, we born and bred from Yorkshire also speak more slowly than those from the south that's why I write slowly too so you don't have to read fast.

Joking apart, its good of you to explain about the mortar situation, I had read that the mortar only keeps bricks apart but I still thought it may crumble under the weight, so now with your last post I may sleep better at night.

Hi Ya Russell, yep, getting closer buddy, wish I could get it closed this week but have a few days out and the weather is set to change to rain for a few days, must curb my eagerness.

We visited the Messai Verde last year while staying with family in Colorado so wasn't very far from the four corners and your good self in Utah.
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Picture 3 shows my little set up (Bulgarian Jig) I clamp the brick, as shown stick my foot on the board and whizz away, I'm sure H&SE would have something to say about it.
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That's a pretty good transition for using an angle grinder. It should work really well.

I also used an angle grinder for my build. To cut my bricks I clamped them to an old timber bench seat so I didn't have to bend over so much.
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Old 09-30-2013, 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the compliment Sharkey, Good idea with your bench set up, my backs been aching like mad, these days I really have to force myself to get out of bed to head on down to my brick pile, but hope to have the dome closed tomorrow.
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