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Old 05-23-2010, 12:40 PM
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Eric,
I haven't even done any research on the curing process yet. I will order the lumber tomorrow to start the addition to my garage that will cover the oven. It is 12' x 36' and will be extra storage to get my lawn mower, four wheeler, tractor, ect. out of the garage. I'm sure it will take a couple of weeks and give my oven time to cure on it's own for a while before I begin the fire curing process. After I get the addition under roof I will look into what is involved in curing. The burner in the link you attached looks like a relatively inexpensive option to start with and I would think with gas it will be much easier to maintain a constant temperature.
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Old 05-28-2010, 08:17 PM
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I put the roof on the addition this afternoon. I'll try to post some more pictures tomorrow.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:12 AM
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Your oven is looking great CK!
I'm new to the site and the endeavor but am already driving my fiancee crazy over researching the skills and practices needed. Its her fault for coming up with the idea in the first place! Your latest oven interior shot shows some very impressive brick laying. Are you going to band the dome with CF sheets and encase it or leave it thinner? Also, how hard was it to get approval for the build from the local building inspector?
Looking forward to further posts!
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:18 PM
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Moving right along. This is after the garage addition is under roof and the metal framing around the oven and grill is almost complete. I started installing the concrete board this afternoon but didn't take any pictures yet.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:54 PM
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Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I have fired my oven a couple of times and am dissapointed to say that I had some major craking of the dome. My first fire ws 100 degrees. Second 200, Third 300, Fourth 400. And then the fifth got away from me and exceeded 800. Thats when the cracking began some of them opened up nearly an eighth of an inch. I couldn't see fire throught the cracks but some smoke was making its way through. After the oven cooled the cracks decreased in size. Is this something to worry about? Is thereanything that I can do at this point? I haven't insulated or put the hardibacker aroung the outside yet so I still have easy access to the outside of the oven.
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:44 PM
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I must start with the disclaimer that I am a mason by need and not by trade, but I have thrown a table slab which is supported on 2 sides (corner) only and which extends some 20" and includes a basin. It has been working fine for years now, so I am convinced that with some nice structure steel rod (rebar I see you call it) there is no reason why your overhang can not be the size you like. I boxed mine with wood. Drilled & inserted the rods 4" into the wall and cast it. Week later I took die box away and just touched the sides up with a grinder where my boxing left untidy marks and tiled it for finish. I know this is perhaps a long way from your original plan, but if you want the working space. (Perhaps I miss the whole plot :-))
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:56 AM
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Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I have fired my oven a couple of times and am dissapointed to say that I had some major craking of the dome. My first fire ws 100 degrees. Second 200, Third 300, Fourth 400. And then the fifth got away from me and exceeded 800. Thats when the cracking began some of them opened up nearly an eighth of an inch. I couldn't see fire throught the cracks but some smoke was making its way through. After the oven cooled the cracks decreased in size. Is this something to worry about? Is thereanything that I can do at this point? I haven't insulated or put the hardibacker aroung the outside yet so I still have easy access to the outside of the oven.
This is exactly what happened to me. One of the cracks was 1/8 inch thick and extended from the soldier brick row to the top of the dome, and was full thickness, and leaked smoke like crazy. After the oven cooled, I cut out the old mortar with an angle grinder and diamond wheel, and repointed the crack (both from inside, and outside--me crawling arms first through the arch with my fat gut) using this great buff-colored fireplace mortar in a caulk-gun tube, which you can get at home improvement stores. The stuff is easy to squeeze into the joints, and cures rock hard at 500 degrees. I have had two +700 heats since then, and no new cracks, and this original crack is sealed tight. I think these heavy brick ovens, especially if they laid upon an FB board (which are superb insulators, but do contract a little with the first heats) are under tremendous mechanical stress, and the heat is an invitation to relieve that stress via cracks. Once they settle in, and the few cracks repaired, I suspect they will be much more stable. Bottom line, the mortar in the tube is great for repairs.
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Oh, that's too bad CK. But don't worry. If you don't mind posting a pic of the crack it might help. But if its just credit card thick and smoke barley comes out, you could do what Eric just said quite successfully. You could also put additional mortar in it and a 1/4" thick patch on top from the outside. Yes, that area will crack again, BUT it will be just a hairline crack now and after you put on the ceramic blanket 2-3 layers thick and wire it down on the dome, no heat or smoke will escape and the oven will work exactly how it is suppose to.

Also, keep curing the oven to 700 or 800 deg a few days. I've experienced that the oven will form a few more hairline expansion cracks in other places, relieving the big crack and turning it into a common hairline. The weight of the dome and the mortared bricks will keep the structure sound, no worries there.

Is your oven a 42" dome? It does seem the bigger domes need a slower curing of the lower temps but IMHO the flames need to be spread out on the 42" floor and kept at temp for hours at a time otherwise on 4-6th firing (especially if it 'gets away from you') the dome gets a thermal shock it wasn't ready for b/c it's so big, it didn't really heat up properly on the 1st fires.

Your oven looks really good, you'll be in great shape and cooking in a few days!
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