Go Back   Forno Bravo Forum: The Wood-Fired Oven Community > Good Background Information > Brick Oven Photos

Like Tree18Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #201  
Old 03-26-2013, 06:56 PM
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 671
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

Ya i dont think ive seen finger prints on my bricks either.
Reply With Quote
  #202  
Old 03-26-2013, 07:04 PM
Gulf's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 1,398
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stonecutter View Post
Not in mine, but not all handmades have marks like that. It's a pretty good bet they are handmade if none of them have the same dimensions. It would be cool to see impressions in the brick, long lost artisans.......
I only have found a few of mine with those impressions. They are neat to see. When you find them they will usually be very deep impressions. My dad told me years ago that they used to pick them up by hand from the molds several at a time when they were stacking them for the kiln. He told me that those men could pick up as many as 10 brick at a time, using their hands like we would use brick tongs. Only the outer brick had the markings. I will admit that their seems to be much less than 2 out of 10 my bricks that have prints.
I will try to find and post a pic of one.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #203  
Old 03-26-2013, 07:07 PM
Tscarborough's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ausitn
Posts: 2,861
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

It would be very unusual for a human finger to actually touch a brick that was soft enough to take an impression (but it did happen, I saw some today in an old Chicago I gave to a client for a sample), but it is pretty common for dog, cat, raccoon and bird prints to be found on wood-mold bricks. Those look to be machine made, dry pressed commons, so they will probably not have random marks.

Here is an old wood mold used to make hand-mold common brick. If your brick are slick on all sides, and do not have that rough side showing as in the photo, they are certainly machine made. The rough side is a by product of the brick maker scraping excess off the mold, machine molded brick do not show this.

As an aside, the gap around the left and top is how much the brick shrinks in the kiln, as you can see it shrinks more in the long direction than the narrow one. The slots in the bottom are to allow the wet brick to break vacuum when being de-molded, and when in use the mold would usually have metal strapping tacked to the runners to reduce wear. Molds are retired once they get worn enough to be "out-of-spec" as to the size, which can take years.

In Northern Mexico, where this mold is from, each brick maker builds his own molds, digs his own mud, mixes his own clay body, forms the brick, but does not stack the dried brick in the kiln or remove them from the kiln. All for the princely sum of about .02 per brick.

As another trivia aside, the smallest a brick will ever be is when it leaves the kiln, it actually increases in size from there. CMU, on the other hand, are at their largest when they leave the kiln, they shrink over time. The next time you notice an older building that has contiguous brick and CMU, check to see if there is a crack in the joint between them.

Mexican Handmade Wood-mold Wood-fired Adobes
Attached Thumbnails
42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.-032713brickmold.jpg  

Last edited by Tscarborough; 03-26-2013 at 07:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #204  
Old 03-26-2013, 07:50 PM
ATK406's Avatar
Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 184
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

For all you fellow brick junkies, V has some great links to some history about the bricks he is using in case anybody missed it on page 10;
Brickmakers
http://simonsbrickyard.blogspot.com/...-number-3.html

Sorry to repeat, but this is good stuff.

AT
Reply With Quote
  #205  
Old 03-26-2013, 08:08 PM
Tscarborough's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ausitn
Posts: 2,861
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

I did miss it, and it dates his as he has noted.
Reply With Quote
  #206  
Old 03-26-2013, 08:34 PM
stonecutter's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South Carolina,USA
Posts: 1,526
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tscarborough View Post
The rough side is a by product of the brick maker scraping excess off the mold, machine molded brick do not show this.
Mexican Handmade Wood-mold Wood-fired Adobes
Yeah, and some of mine are also wider on one side than the other.

Erik's guys still use a mould like that to make brick by hand...really cool stuff.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Current WFO build -
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
John Ruskin
Reply With Quote
  #207  
Old 03-26-2013, 11:37 PM
brickie in oz's Avatar
Il Pizzaiolo
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Whittlesea
Posts: 3,455
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

An Australian brick collectors website you may find interesting, Ive got a few pics on there.

The thumb prints were tally marks, 1 print for 500 made, 2 prints for 1000 made.

Members - Collecting Australian Bricks
__________________
The English language was invented by people who couldnt spell.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by brickie in oz; 03-26-2013 at 11:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #208  
Old 03-31-2013, 08:15 PM
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 671
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

Some work from yesterday.. Got the chimney pretty much done, i just need to complete the bricks on the face/around the arch.




Started to level and straighten the top of the arch to allow for the chimney to set on



My father insisted we add two rebars above each arch, for some support, not sure if it would do much but we went with it



Reply With Quote
  #209  
Old 03-31-2013, 08:21 PM
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 671
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

Top layer done

http://i46.tinypic.com/29e3f50.jpg

Starting the red bricks/chimney



Inside the chimney, yes it was cleaned up.



And here is the chimney, i plan on installing a granite counter/shelf in front of the entry, i have lots of left over granite from my kitchen remodel, so these will go to good use.

Reply With Quote
  #210  
Old 03-31-2013, 08:24 PM
Master Builder
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 671
Default Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.



first time on the dome, guess it help up..






by the way the chimney opening is 12"x9". Not sure how tall, forgot to measure.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Red Clay Brick Oven in the Philippine Islands jayjay Introductions 86 04-10-2013 04:47 PM
Travel Report: The Greek Wood Oven FornoBravoNews Europe 2 04-28-2012 02:54 PM
Cast Oven on Trailer Questions djag12 Other Oven Types 49 09-19-2010 07:03 PM
All things being equal Lester Newbie Forum 13 12-21-2009 01:26 AM
Why we did the Pompeii Oven james Introductions 0 03-21-2005 03:48 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:02 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
2006/10 Forno Bravo, LLC