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Old 03-16-2010, 10:41 AM
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Most people don't pour the walls of the stand. Concrete blocks are cheap, and they can be laid up dry, which is a zero skill job. You could, of course, engineer a single pour stand and slab, but building the forms would be more work then block building the stand.

I once heard an architect describe the process of building a poured concrete house: "You build a wood house on the inside, a second wood house on the outside, pour the concrete, then tear down the first two houses"
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:39 AM
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Here's a dwg on how i am think of build the stand and slab.
I understand that most do n't do it this way, but i am trying to have arches on 3 sides just for the look.

Any comment??

The forms can be re-used.


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Old 03-17-2010, 03:48 PM
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Looks good from my point of view, but I haven't started a build yet, every bodies build looks good to me

I believe I live in your general area, have you decided on your foundation yet?
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:33 PM
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The plan looks good but not sure why you want to pour all at once. Pour your slab, then build your forms and pour the walls, then form and pour the top stand. Just leave your rebar sticking out at the appropriate places to tie it all together.
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:43 AM
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Scott ,

thank you for answering.

Before i have to frame 14'x26' form for my building slab, included in this slab there will be rectangular form for the the underside of the stand. Then over this rectangle area re-bars will be sticking out for the built of the stand.
Then the form for the stand will be set up over this area, reinforced with re-bars per design and more re-bar L-shape will stick out 2" from the top of the stand. These re-bars will be there to tie the hearth slab re-bars. Then i will pour the stand. I have a hobby wood working shop and i dont mind building the stand forms, got leftover plywood and more.

I might have missled any because at first i wanted to pour the stand walls and hearth slab at once, but decided to do this in two pours.

This is still only on paper, soil still frozen, probably braking groud in May.

By the way we are having record temps here in Bathurst, N.B.


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Old 03-18-2010, 08:26 PM
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Marc - i think you got a cool plan and all concrete is about the forms so your wood working will pay off. Good luck and keep designing and refining until the last second. - Scott
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:09 PM
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Dmun,

thanks for our past and continuing interest in my quest and everyone providing comments and more.

It seems like i have another different request haha.
Did anyone thought of making a dome with 10 sides (decagone).
Again the idea would be to have a form like pie shape and curve to match a 42" dia. dome. This could be made with plywood curve to match. The dome could be done in segment maybe 2 third up, then set each segment side by side and finish the top last 3 to 4 rows.

Would this be an effective design or am i out to lunch?

See attached dome PDF file.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:12 PM
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I considered a ribbed design something like you are describing. In the end, I decided that concentric rings would be the easiest to construct and ultimately the strongest structure. Look at all those weird brick cuts you'll have to make to form the triangular wedges. If you make concentric rings, then the bricks of each ring are homogeneous. Once you figure out how to cut the first brick, you can just slam through the rest really quickly and mortar the ring together as fast as possible.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:06 PM
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Marc,
If you want to make something really unique, go for it. But really is there a need to reinvent the wheel? The Pompeii design works and many people have done it and been successfully. This is a difficult project without creating your own design. If you feel you are up to it- do it!
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:58 AM
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Guys,

the only reason for this was to be able to start the dome before by building segments, but i will follow the original Pompei plans.

Again thank you for your advice.

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