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Old 10-17-2013, 12:30 PM
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I used to teach a pottery unit around earth air fire and water to 13 year olds. I would get the students to dig and process the clay, make some primitive pots, dry them and fire them in a pit firing from leaves and sticks that they would gather. I felt it was a great learning experience. Because of complaints about smoke, and there is plenty firing wares this way because you need the fire to smoulder without flames, I no longer teach the unit. I have paid off my home and don't re ally want to lose it.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:44 PM
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Yes. Smoke is very dangerous.
Stings the eyes. Can induce tears.
Tears are saddening.
Not worth the risk. Just show a video instead.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:45 PM
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I agree with you that we do mollycoddle our kids too much these days, but the reality is that folk are quick to sue as well. Smoke emissions are dangerous for some people and the evidence is there.


http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/pdfs/woo...ects_jan07.pdf
http://woodsmoke.3sc.net/ahha-tactics

It is also the very reason that WFO's may be banned in built up areas in the not too distant future.

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Old 10-17-2013, 03:34 PM
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Good point. It is necessary to understand all the risks when it comes to the hazardous activity of wood fired ovens.
We should draft a disclosure document and distribute to guests. Its only fair they should be aware of all the risks. Maybe a safety video?
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:57 PM
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This conversation would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. The whole world has gone crazy.
Over in Syria little kids are being killed in ways too horrific to imagine, while in the "civilised" countries we are worrying about a little woodsmoke or excessivley hot molten cheese. Those Syrian kids would probably be delighted to see a fresh pizza right now.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:57 PM
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You can be flippant about it, but children who are not supervised adequately love to play with fire. especially in company with others, they love to impress each other. I have images of a child running around the schoolyard with a burning stick.
In our litigious society someone is likely to be held responsible. I would love to build a WFO at our school, but have so far been reluctant because of potential problems.
I do take my mobile oven to our school a few times a year and cook pizzas, but I never leave the fire unattended like I would do at home. The risks at school and home are quite different.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:28 PM
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Normal fire code would apply. I work in a school and legally we can't have any ceramic fibre as children are more susceptible. On a practical level they are probably more at risk than adults from emissions from the smoke. Many children are also dangerous risk takers and untrustworthy and those characteristics combined with fire are a potent combination.
I've been teaching for a long time and have therefore learned to look ahead to foresee problems that might arise. This partially true story is one possible scenario.

A school was fortunate enough to have a wood fired oven built for them by a teacher with a passion for wood fired oven cooking. A few years later a young enthusiastic, inexperienced teacher decided to organize a pizza party for her class. The pizzas were wonderful even if some of them were a bit burnt or partially covered in ash. Following their excellent feast, she decided it would be fun to toast some marshmallows on satay sticks over the now dying coals. The children were having a wonderful time and the teacher was congratulating herself on a job well done so began fussing around cleaning up.
Little Harry got his marshmallow a little too close to the fire and it burst into flame so he quickly removed it, waving it around and blowing on it in an effort to extinguish the flames. His four friends rocked with hilarious laughter thinking it was a huge joke. Not wanting to miss out on any of the fun they too plunged their marshmallows into the fire and began waving them around.
Harry’s friend Billy discovered that the bendy satay stick made an ideal propulsion unit and soon flaming little gooey fireballs were flying everywhere. Fortunately or miraculously, no one got burnt. Unfortunately no one noticed the mini incendiary bomb that was flicked up onto the roof landing neatly into the guttering that was full of dry leaves.
The happy but oblivious teacher having cleared everything away neatly, dismissed the children and went home satisfied, silently congratulating herself on a job well done…
until she was woken at 2 am by the firebrigade informing her that the school was engulfed in flames.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:46 PM
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Like I said before.
Way Too Dangerous!
Youtube fortunately has many videos on roasting marshmallows.
Just show a video instead. Much much safer. Individuals can even hold chopsticks with cotton balls placed at the end of chopsticks to simulate roasting marshmallows!
Hopefully they know better than eat the cotton 'marshmallow!'

Thanks you good sir for educating us on the risks and dangers of everyday life.
We can never be too safe!!!
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with cotton balls placed at the end of chopsticks
Save the cotton balls for wrapping the precious little kiddies in.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:58 PM
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Hi all,
I am planning to build a wfo in our primary school, using as many students as practically possible. We run an amazing kitchen garden programme here where students up to grade 6 are involved in growing, harvesting ang preparing meals.They use garden tools, kitchen utensils, all under strict supervision and love every minute of it. We are educating life-long learners and not a laptop or text book in sight. I am willing to bet that the students won't forget the experience!
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