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Old 09-21-2007, 08:06 PM
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Baking always takes longer than you think huh? I have found that concentrating on my shaping technique has gotten rid of my large holes. There are some detailed shaping instructions in Amazon.com: Bread: A Baker's Book of Techniques and Recipes: Books: Jeffrey Hamelman
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Yea I just received the book in the mail a few days ago and I'm going to try my hands with the miche again tonight. Thanks!
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:29 PM
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Second try at the Miche. No caverns this time, but there are some larger than I'd like pockets as you can see from the last pic. Flavor is great, but the texture of the crumb still needs work. I don't think my barm was quite as active as it needed to be.
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You are really getting there with these loaves. Concentrate on technique and sticking to the formula. Gradually you will begin to eliminate variables and will be able to manipulate them to achieve any desired result you might have. I do believe that improving your shaping technique will help with these strange holes in the crumb of you bread. Something you are doing is creating this. Do keep in mind that when you begin to bake them in the WFO with the hot hearth you will be able to see those big ones originating in the lower portion of the loaves and extend upward into the loaf.
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Thanks! Once I finish this loaf off (man, 4lbs is a lot of bread), I'll try another. I agree that my shaping needs work. Hamelman's book has been a big help. I really like his techniques.
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Thanks! Once I finish this loaf off (man, 4lbs is a lot of bread), I'll try another. I agree that my shaping needs work. Hamelman's book has been a big help. I really like his techniques.
Looking good!

Is it really tasty?
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Sliced, toasted, and buttered its great...with marmalade on top of that its even better.
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Fourth (I think) run with the basic sourdough. The flavor keeps getting better and better. Not dense at all this time, but the larger holes are still there. I imagine my shaping technique sucks. At least the holes don't effect the taste.
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Is this Reinhart's Basic SD or Hamelman's. I do not have Hamelman's book so I am not familiar with his recipe. The bread really is looking good and irregularity in the crumb is good but...there is some variable that is causing these cavernous holes. I will try to come up with a suggestion.
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Is this Reinhart's Basic SD or Hamelman's. I do not have Hamelman's book so I am not familiar with his recipe. The bread really is looking good and irregularity in the crumb is good but...there is some variable that is causing these cavernous holes. I will try to come up with a suggestion.
Its the basic sourdough recipe from Reinhart. Thanks!
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Just a thought: once you divide and scale the dough pieces, you should do a preliminary shaping. The first step in that shaping is to pat the pieces flat with the palm of your hand (not too aggressively). This will eliminate most, if not all, large gas pockets. After a bench rest of about fifteen minutes (seam side up), you can flip the dough over, do the final shaping and into the baskets.

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