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  • Need help with the mortar mix

    Hi all - Ive just started building the dome on my oven and I need help with the mortar mix.
    I have purchased A600 Chinese Cement from Field Furnace Refractories (wetherall park sydney).
    Is this a premix or do need to add sand etc.?
    What are the ratios?
    I have also read alot about adding fire clay, is this necessary in this cement?
    Thanks
    Heath

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    Re: Need help with the mortar mix

    FFR should be able to help you, call Andrew or Alan.

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    • #3
      Re: Need help with the mortar mix

      Hi Heath and welcome aboard.
      I personally wouldn't use any of these products and stick with the poor man's mortar for several reasons. It is easy to make, cheap and seems to out perform all these other refractory products.

      Cheers,

      Neill
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      • #4
        Re: Need help with the mortar mix

        Originally posted by nissanneill View Post
        Hi Heath and welcome aboard.
        I personally wouldn't use any of these products and stick with the poor man's mortar for several reasons. It is easy to make, cheap and seems to out perform all these other refractory products.

        Cheers,

        Neill
        I agree! I've built a few and especially those ovens with a lot of reinforced thermal mass on top, things are not going to move too far, only as far as a quality fire brick will allow! I know with the method I use, very little of the mortar actually sees flame and has no way of getting into the oven.
        Boom Shanker! (Neil - The Young Ones)


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        • #5
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          montiesridge
          How did you go?....What was the answer from Allan/Andrew I would like to know myself

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          • #6
            Re: Need help with the mortar mix

            I would also like to knwo what to mix the A600 with...?
            Anyone find out the answer? IS it just water is sand required?

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            • #7
              Re: Need help with the mortar mix

              Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
              montiesridge
              How did you go?....What was the answer from Allan/Andrew I would like to know myself

              Regards Dave
              Actually Dave, Andrew has left FFR sometime ago.

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              • #8
                Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                Originally posted by Rae View Post
                I would also like to knwo what to mix the A600 with...?
                Anyone find out the answer? IS it just water is sand required?
                Vermiculite. Various ratios, for different strengths.

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                • #9
                  Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                  Originally posted by Johnny the oven man View Post
                  Vermiculite. Various ratios, for different strengths.
                  Vermiculite in the mortar??
                  Won't this make it way too coarse?
                  Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                    Hi All,

                    1 part Portland cement
                    3 parts sand
                    1 part lime
                    1 part fireclay

                    Thanks,
                    Heidi FB

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                    • #11
                      Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                      Hi All,

                      1 part Portland cement
                      3 parts sand
                      1 part lime
                      1 part fireclay

                      Thanks,
                      Heidi FB

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                      • #12
                        Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                        Heath
                        just go with the poor mans morter i was a little concerned before I started however it does a great job. Ensure you use riversand not brickies sand.

                        Leigh

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                        • #13
                          Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                          Has fireclay another name in New Zealand And Australia please? I can't find a seller in NZ. Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                            Hi not sure if it called the same in NZ I had to source mine from a company that makes clay bricks locally.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Need help with the mortar mix

                              I will try Huntly tomorrow. Thanks.

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