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  • It's a sad day in Daveland

    Oven failure.

    A brick has fallen.

    Sad, Sad, Sad


    Not sure what to do.

    Here is a picture of the brick that has fallen out of my inner arch.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Dave
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    My thread:
    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/d...ress-2476.html
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    Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

    Dave,

    I feel your pain! I really, really do! This must be the month for fallen arches (sorry about the pun).

    My first thought is to use some furnace cement or mortar, tap it back into place and brace it for a day.

    But heck, don't take my advice, I have a screwed up arch too!!

    Good luck friend.
    Ken H. - Kentucky
    42" Pompeii

    Pompeii Oven Construction Video Updated!

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    • #3
      Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

      Originally posted by Ken524 View Post
      Dave,

      I feel your pain! I really, really do! This must be the month for fallen arches (sorry about the pun).

      My first thought is to use some furnace cement or mortar, tap it back into place and brace it for a day.

      But heck, don't take my advice, I have a screwed up arch too!!

      Good luck friend.
      Thanks Ken.

      I was thinking of getting some heatstop to fix it.
      Or maybe building an arch out of metal to support it.
      Sort of a metal arch insert.

      It still cooks hellugood but... I'm worried about what will happen to the rest of the arch and dome!
      My thread:
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/d...ress-2476.html
      My costs:
      http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...Xr0fvgxuh4s7Hw
      My pics:
      http://picasaweb.google.com/dawatsonator

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      • #4
        Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

        Originally posted by asudavew View Post
        It still cooks hellugood but... I'm worried about what will happen to the rest of the arch and dome!
        Yeah, I think the brick definitely needs to be reattached somehow... Maybe our resident Dentist can help!
        Ken H. - Kentucky
        42" Pompeii

        Pompeii Oven Construction Video Updated!

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        • #5
          Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

          Oh Dave, I am so sorry to hear that!! How awful!

          Attach it with heatstop AND then brace it with a metal arch - teach that &#37;&*?%&#231; brick to stay where it belongs!!

          ...though maybe, doesn't this show that the rest of the dome is solidly built, if its holding up even with a whole brick missing? How does the rest look?

          I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Good luck Dave!!
          "Building a Brick oven is the most fun anyone can have by themselves." (Terry Pratchett... slightly amended)

          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/p...pics-2610.html
          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f9/p...nues-2991.html

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          • #6
            Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

            That does kinda suck, but shake it off big Dave. You'll get it back in there. And no harm done (assuming it did't land in that pizza). That would REALLY suck!

            dusty

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            • #7
              Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

              Dave,
              Firstly did it fall all the way out? Sounds like it was not pushing enough against the other bricks in the arch. Was the brick tapered at all? If not, is it a space that you might grind a slightly larger brick to fit like a keystone? You would then be able to fit the new "keystone" and using, a grout bag with your mortar mixture or a tube of furnace cement really squeeze the voids full.
              Keep me posted on your thoughts!
              Dutch
              "Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. " Charles Mingus
              "Build at least two brick ovens...one to make all the mistakes on and the other to be just like you dreamed of!" Dutch

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              • #8
                Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                Originally posted by asudavew View Post
                Oven failure.

                A brick has fallen.

                Sad, Sad, Sad


                Not sure what to do.

                Here is a picture of the brick that has fallen out of my inner arch.

                Any suggestions?

                Thanks for any advice.

                Dave
                Awwww....

                Sorry for your loss. It's hopeless - you'll have to demolish the entier oven and start over...





                By the way, you should never take building advice from anyone who cannot spell 'entire'...

                "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                "Success isn't permanent and failure isn't fatal." -Mike Ditka
                [/CENTER]

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                • #9
                  Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                  Wow, that is truely a shame.

                  Looking at your "pizza night and Porchetta" pics it also appears you also may have another weak area. That coupled with the remaining arch being suspended by the mortar and cladding not compression, I think I would opt for the metal arch support you mentioned. Slide the brick back in place and perhaps cut a notch in each of the soldier bricks or the mortar joint between the soldiers and your 45 degree bricks, metal support resting in the notches. Whatever path you choose, I would be as gentle as possible.

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                  • #10
                    Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                    Hey Dave,

                    That's a serious drag, but I'm sure you can work through it. Nature is on your side on this one. You cannot avoid cracking, but you definitely can repair your arch to be structurally 100&#37; solid. It's the nature of brick arches -- get it right and it will stand for hundreds of years.

                    I agree with the theory that this has to do with lateral thrust pushing your arch outward, not with your mortar and repair compound. The idea of bracing both your entry arch and the vent opening arch sounds right to me --- you can either use a metal brace, or something masonry, either more bricks or blocks.

                    I used a course of half CMU's when I built my first oven to support the vent and the decorative arch.

                    Good luck and let us know how it goes!
                    James
                    Pizza Ovens
                    Outdoor Fireplaces

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                    • #11
                      Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                      Thanks everyone.

                      I really appreciate the input.

                      It's been too cold and wet to work much on oven.
                      Hopefully this weekend the weather will improve.

                      I did get to start on a door for my oven.
                      Ill post some pics and a new thread about the door.

                      Once again, thank you all.

                      And I will let everyone know how I fix it.

                      Dave
                      Last edited by asudavew; 12-11-2007, 05:14 PM.
                      My thread:
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/d...ress-2476.html
                      My costs:
                      http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...Xr0fvgxuh4s7Hw
                      My pics:
                      http://picasaweb.google.com/dawatsonator

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                      • #12
                        Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                        Originally posted by asudavew View Post
                        Oven failure.

                        A brick has fallen.

                        Sad, Sad, Sad


                        Not sure what to do.

                        Here is a picture of the brick that has fallen out of my inner arch.

                        Any suggestions?

                        Thanks for any advice.

                        Dave
                        Awwww....

                        Sorry for your loss. It's hopeless - you'll have to demolish the entier oven and start over...





                        By the way, you should never take building advice from anyone who cannot spell 'entire'...

                        "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                        "Success isn't permanent and failure isn't fatal." -Mike Ditka
                        [/CENTER]

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                        • #13
                          Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                          Originally posted by Archena View Post
                          Awwww....

                          Sorry for your loss. It's hopeless - you'll have to demolish the entier oven and start over...
                          Crud.

                          I'm gonna have to take it down.

                          I guess I have been bored anyways....

                          ho hum
                          My thread:
                          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/d...ress-2476.html
                          My costs:
                          http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...Xr0fvgxuh4s7Hw
                          My pics:
                          http://picasaweb.google.com/dawatsonator

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                          • #14
                            Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                            Originally posted by james View Post



                            I used a course of half CMU's when I built my first oven to support the vent and the decorative arch.

                            Good luck and let us know how it goes!

                            Thanks James!

                            But what the heck is a cmu?

                            dave has no idear!
                            My thread:
                            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/d...ress-2476.html
                            My costs:
                            http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...Xr0fvgxuh4s7Hw
                            My pics:
                            http://picasaweb.google.com/dawatsonator

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                            • #15
                              Re: It's a sad day in Daveland

                              cmu = Concrete Masonry Unit... concrete block, concrete brick, etc.

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