web analytics
UK oven build - help with fire cement - Forno Bravo Forum: The Wood-Fired Oven Community

Announcement

Collapse

Photo Galleries are back! Instructions below.

Dear forum users,
Thank you for your patience with the Photo galleries. We've got your galleries online!
We have finished writing a custom script to migrate the PhotoPlog to vBulletin5’s albums.

Unfortunately V-Bulletin killed the "Photoplogs" in their software upgrade which was unforeseen and we're the first development group to have written a script for getting the galleries back... that said, it took some time to reverse engineer the code and get the albums to move over seamlessly!

Forum users will be able to access their “PhotoPlog” images through their user profile page by clicking on the “Media” tab.
They will also be able to browse other albums by going to the albums page. (On the forum site, there is a link in the black bar beside “Forums” to the albums.)

In order for users to create an album please follow the steps below.
1) Go to user profile page and click “Media”
2) Click Add Photos
3) Enter Photo Gallery Title in the first field
4) Click Upload or Select from Photo Album to add photos
5) Click Post
6) Once posted, the album will be created as a “Topic” on the albums page for the public to see. The topic title will be the “Photo Gallery Title” they created before uploading their photos.


To create this migration path we used vBulletin5’s default album structure. Unfortunately, it won’t work like the “PhotoPlog” but is an album/gallery component on the forum now.
See more
See less

UK oven build - help with fire cement

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • UK oven build - help with fire cement

    Hey

    A brilliant forum, currently building my first Pompeii oven.

    Can you help with the fire cement? I purchased Vitcas Fire Cement, but now have three tubs and am unsure if this is the correct product for the job? It is more like tile adhesive / putty, and I am just not sure if it is going to do the job.

    What else could I use? I only really have three options;

    I have this: Vitcas Premium Fire Cement

    But could have got one of these:

    Vitcas Heatproof Mortar

    Refractory Morset

    Should I trust the fire cement will go off eventually? Three days on and it's still quite soft and I cannot see the top roof bricks staying in, rather just drop out when I remove the ply.

    Thanks for any advice :-)

  • #2
    Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

    I got similar stuff for my build. Its really not the best thing for pizza oven building. If you had enough time and patience then maybe it could work, but it would be far easier to make up some homebrew mortar (fine sand, cement, hydrated lime, dry fireclay). If you are using firebricks then a 3:1:1:1 mix is standard. Put your unopened firecement tubs on ebay/gumtree.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

      Thanks for that, I think I will.

      Would the Refractory Morset be better? I could exchange what I have for that.

      Thanks again

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

        Generally none of the premixed wet mortars are very good for building a pizza oven. They are designed for things like fireplaces or kilns where they don't have wide mortar gaps or get much hotter than an oven would.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

          Problem is I am struggling with dry fireclay and lime locally.

          Will builders merchants do it in a big bag?

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

            Hydrated Lime should be stocked at pretty much any builders merchants. It usually comes in 25kg bags but they are huge because it is very light. My local Jewsons had it. I used about 3/5 of a 25kg bag for my 32" oven.

            Fireclay; 25KG Bag of Fire Clay to make Refractory Furnace Kiln | eBay Places like Jewsons can usually order it in on request too, or if you have a local kiln supply company they will probably have some.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

              Fantastic. Thank you.

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                This stuff is just up the road from me, is it the same thing?

                http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...d=271289055216

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                  Gudday
                  The fireclay is just there to improve the workability of the mortar. It's not absolutely required
                  You could not use any at all a squit of dish washing liquid to make the mortar plastic
                  Use bricklayers sand which has a clay content.
                  Source bricklayers clay , bagged in powder form.
                  Use powdered clay from a pottery supply.


                  Regards dave
                  Measure twice
                  Cut once
                  Fit in position with largest hammer

                  My Build
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                  My Door
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                    Thanks Dave.

                    So I could use a mix of soft sand, lime and normal cement? I've got febmix for the workability....

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                      Gudday
                      Sounds like a good plan to me.
                      Remember Hydrated Lime could be called Builders Lime not agricultural Lime
                      Regards dave
                      Measure twice
                      Cut once
                      Fit in position with largest hammer

                      My Build
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                      My Door
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                        Contact Bookemdano, his is a UK builder and he could help you material sources.
                        Russell

                        Link to my Picasa Album
                        https://plus.google.com/photos/10287...21083003687777

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                          Thanks guys for all your advice.

                          I need to get on with it this week whilst there is a break in the weather, and the soft sand / hydraulic lime / portland cement is an easy option.

                          I'll mix this 2:1:1 unless anyone tells me different?

                          This forum is fab :-)

                          Here is my build so far, the bit on the right is my bbq, and the space under is my wood store.

                          I'm new to all this so bear with me!



                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                            I could be wrong, but by the look of your photos the dome is sitting directly on your supporting slab. While your floor looks adequately insulated your dome is not. You will lose a substantial amount of heat via conduction into your supporting slab. It may not be too late to remove the first course and insulate under them.
                            Last edited by david s; 10-02-2013, 01:00 AM. Reason: Damn auto correct
                            Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: UK oven build - help with fire cement

                              Thanks - I did a lot of asking around and was told this would be ok (the entire dome will be covered with 4" vermicultie and rendered).

                              I've actually built a bit more than in these pictures, so it would be a real pain now to have to remove them.

                              Will it really loose that much through the bricks into the floor?

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X